Mattias Burling

Bought his LUT pack since I always liked his looks. And this is a quick run through of some of them. Cant wait for the new color panel in Premiere so it gets a bit more intuitive and streamlined when using them.
 

It's unfortunate that so many of the replies here come from a spec sheet formed opinion.  I personally couldn't afford to invest in this camera, however if i were an artist/film maker who values the benefits of true monochrome, or one who's art practice is purely in b+w this is definitely the cheapest option.  It's sad that so many seem to compare this to the bmpcc and the currently not released bmmcc.  It's also sad that it seems ISO's are more important than image quality to strong mouthed eoshd-ers.  Rag the hell out of a b+w sensor and i imagine the grain is rather pleasing - as it is when you rag monochrome film.  it;s only colour noise that looks nasty.  film grain looks lush      

Anyone that thinks they know what I want or should have for my work without knowing anything about me makes me skeptical of that person's opinion.  You're not me.  I'm not you.
My advice is to try and have a little empathy.  Attempt to see things from a POV that's not your own.  That's a healthy thing to do in life.  Avoid being intellectually calcified.
Regardless, wasn't the Bolex was always meant to be niche?  If anything, they might be ahead of the curve as I think the future of digital video is going to move into specialized gear and less mass market...as the most likely scenario is that the mass consumer market is going to continue to dwindle for cameras.

I bought the regular D16 (not the M) since its imo pretty much a bmpcc mkiii (the micro is the mkii) and priced similar to anything Blackmagic if you look at what they charge for specs. 
The way I saw it was bmpcc + SDs for 2h raw + a Tascam DR 100ii + The battery I use for my Blackmagic + a rig to hold it and to help with handheld = $1-1.5k.
Then it's the added Global Shutter which is another $500 if you go micro. Of course then you need a monitor also but let's call it even for the 60fps.
Then there is no more Moire. What that is worth is individual but I would gladly have payed $500 for it in a bmpcc update.
Some other small things like higher resolution, last clip deletion, full size HDMI, off load to CF and such might be worth a little to some. 
And lastly it's the CCD and the look that gives. And this is the whole point actually. Either you want it or you don't. I did and its worth atleast $500 for me.
When I added it all up its imo worth around $2,5-3k. Pretty fare for a cinema camera with those specs if you ask me (I paid 2.3k for the 500gb version and an mft mount is $350 if I decide to get that in the future).
That's atleast how I viewed it. For those that don't I totally understand. We all like different gear and looks.
So if I was buying it for the same reasons but with the intention to shoot B&W only I would of course consider it because of the extra stop of DR it gives.
Ive only seen I think one demo from the M but that looked really good. 
 

I bought the regular D16 (not the M) since its imo pretty much a bmpcc mkiii (the micro is the mkii) and priced similar to anything Blackmagic if you look at what they charge for specs. 
The way I saw it was bmpcc + SDs for 2h raw + a Tascam DR 100ii + The battery I use for my Blackmagic + a rig to hold it and to help with handheld = $1-1.5k.
Then it's the added Global Shutter which is another $500 if you go micro. Of course then you need a monitor also but let's call it even for the 60fps.
Then there is no more Moire. What that is worth is individual but I would gladly have payed $500 for it in a bmpcc update.
Some other small things like higher resolution, last clip deletion, full size HDMI, off load to CF and such might be worth a little to some. 
And lastly it's the CCD and the look that gives. And this is the whole point actually. Either you want it or you don't. I did and its worth atleast $500 for me.
When I added it all up its imo worth around $2,5-3k. Pretty fare for a cinema camera with those specs if you ask me (I paid 2.3k for the 500gb version and an mft mount is $350 if I decide to get that in the future).
That's atleast how I viewed it. For those that don't I totally understand. We all like different gear and looks.
So if I was buying it for the same reasons but with the intention to shoot B&W only I would of course consider it because of the extra stop of DR it gives.
Ive only seen I think one demo from the M but that looked really good. 
 

Matthias, that is one sweet piece of Zeiss. My question is... Do you find the lens or the bolex has more to do with the look of that video? Did you do any grading? The reason I ask is because the video looks so filmic. I would almost believe it was film if you swore by it. Very nice. 

​Besides 12 bit RAW and 10-bit prores with 13 stops of dynamic range, better rolling shutter, and WAY nicer color?

It was something like this that led me to getting a D16 last week. Just started thinking what camera do "I" really want. No focus on which is "best" or at least concidered best nor the latest and greatest.
I thought to hell with 4k, 14 stops, super slowo. Instead How do I want my memories to look. When I picture the dog I had before the one in my avatar,  what does the memory look like? Is it crisp,  saturated, orange teal 4K? Or is it more like an old film? What look would I like my first feature to have and do on.
Basically ignoring everything and just look to my self and what I like, not clients or the Internet. 
One thing lead to another and I now have a used Bolex. Ever since it came out I have re watched Blooms review as well as others footage atleast once a month. Ive always loved it but thought about price, built in ND, lowlight, 4k, slowmotion and so on. Not this time. 
I have atleast one paid gig where it will be used together with my other camera ahead. But for narative, more personal videos and story telling it will definitely be the A-Cam,. Despite not having the latest specs and party tricks. 

I'm not against tech and I don't see threads like this as being against it at all. Like said above, you can go both routes. 
But it's good to be reminded in a thread like this once a month when there is threads about the next camera started a hundred times a day.
I rewatch the Revenge of the shootout video from Zacuto every now and then for the same reasons.
One part in there I like is when one of them says something like, not even three hotshots in Hollywood knows what camera is being used and most of them don't care.
A recent example is the guy I bought the Bolex from. Im pretty sure it's the first copy sold used in Sweden ever but still he lowballed it. And he was totally unaware of how rare it was here and that before today it wasn't even in stores this side of the Atlantic. 
And then it struck me. The guy is an awaward-winning director with an impressive portfolio on imdb, and he doesn't give a crap about which camera does what. 
Again, I'm not an Anti GAS crusader, on the contrary, I run a tech review youtube channel for God's sake.
It's just good imo to be reminded of this topic every now and then. Once a month sounds good imo

That there was no a7sii has been more or less confirmed quite some time ago. 
The next camera is the a7rii in may if I remember correctly. 

What format will you distribute in? Online, television, theatre screens? If online, 1080p is definitely a safe bet with the advantages stated above.
If you'd like to though, Mattias Burling showed that uploading 1080p upscaled to 4k actually shows a far cleaner image on youtube than uploading the 1080p native because youtube gives it a better bit rate. I'm sure 2.7k to 4k would be even better in this scenario.

That looks like an awesome run n gun cam, will keep an eye on it.

What other 4k s35 camera is there in the price range that can use native mount as well as M39, MD, AR, m42, ef, Nikon and so on, because I would love to buy it.

What other 4k s35 camera is there in the price range that can use native mount as well as M39, MD, AR, m42, ef, Nikon and so on, because I would love to buy it.

So basically what you are saying is A7S = perfect camera to shoot The Simpsons with?

But you can use loads of cool and cheap vintage glass that's not s16. And s16 wouldn't cover the large APS-C sensor anyway. 

Here's a link to the footage:
 

I would keep it. But not the guy who's car broke down or that just have to have that new shiny thing released at NAB

A short summary yeah, no footage. It's a big "no" from me for this camera, just get the NX1 instead.

Here is a test with the Jena 35/2.8 I posted earlier. 
 

Ive enjoy this little pocket 4K "camcorder" vey much so I had to put together a review.
 
 

Ive enjoy this little pocket 4K "camcorder" vey much so I had to put together a review.
 
 

Thank you very much, glad you liked it

So no link to the phone?
 
(don't need to compare, have shot plenty on my bmpcc, bmcc and my favorite, the bmpc. But I don't see how any of them are relevant to this discussion.) 

Phillip Bloom shows examples in his review of the gh4 and if I remember correctly compares to the regular one.