Mattias Burling

In my mind you can do whatever you want and then state your case afterwards. If it feels ok it probably is.
The goal is a sub €200 camera and if it's €220 that will be taken into consideration. So if it's neck and neck between two videos and one was under budget it will win.
I really don't think we need to have the rules in such detail for a friendly competition. 
Personally I'm not trying everything to max the budget, instead I will try to go as low as possible. I mean a store here has a used GH4 in the sub €300 so a G6 or GX80 is probably doable. But what's the fun in that
 

Kipon with Close Focus is always my go-to for MFT. Takes care of the long focus distance inherited by the Leica mount.

@Mattias Burling that makes sense. I don’t care about winning, I see this as a way to mess around with some older cameras I’ve always wanted to test. In fact, the safe bet is to buy the cheapest camera possible since I could lose it if I come in dead last. 

In my mind you can do whatever you want and then state your case afterwards. If it feels ok it probably is.
The goal is a sub €200 camera and if it's €220 that will be taken into consideration. So if it's neck and neck between two videos and one was under budget it will win.
I really don't think we need to have the rules in such detail for a friendly competition. 
Personally I'm not trying everything to max the budget, instead I will try to go as low as possible. I mean a store here has a used GH4 in the sub €300 so a G6 or GX80 is probably doable. But what's the fun in that
 

Just browsed a little in the sub €200 range. The GX800, EOS-M, Nex-7 etc are all easy to find, but also obvious and a little boring.
But the original RX100.. that could be fun.

Just browsed a little in the sub €200 range. The GX800, EOS-M, Nex-7 etc are all easy to find, but also obvious and a little boring.
But the original RX100.. that could be fun.

Just browsed a little in the sub €200 range. The GX800, EOS-M, Nex-7 etc are all easy to find, but also obvious and a little boring.
But the original RX100.. that could be fun.

I think the camera should remain secret until after the vote. When doing camera side by sides we all know people vote for the one that should be best if presented with their identities. 
If there was a max budget for camera+lens+mic+what have you, then speed boosters should be fine.

I think the camera should remain secret until after the vote. When doing camera side by sides we all know people vote for the one that should be best if presented with their identities. 
If there was a max budget for camera+lens+mic+what have you, then speed boosters should be fine.

I think the camera should remain secret until after the vote. When doing camera side by sides we all know people vote for the one that should be best if presented with their identities. 
If there was a max budget for camera+lens+mic+what have you, then speed boosters should be fine.

I think the camera should remain secret until after the vote. When doing camera side by sides we all know people vote for the one that should be best if presented with their identities. 
If there was a max budget for camera+lens+mic+what have you, then speed boosters should be fine.

The last year Ive seen roughly 50/50 FS7 and Canon Cx00 amongst the pros shooting for the big names and networks in the arenas I've worked.
But on the lower end and straight for Webb it's been 50/50 Smartphones/Osmo and A7x.
And interestingly. A couple of XC10/15. First I've seen in the wild.
I'm of course talking video only. For stills it's been 90% Canon, 9.99% Nikon and one single Olympus
 

In s35 mode on the EOS-R I don't think you could get five out of five on a blind test next to the C100mkii.
I did some side by side with my BMMCC as well and the R has more detail and almost identical DR to the BMDs Prores HQ.
Personally I use it in full frame HD for mini docs all the time. It's either going online for social media or projected on big movie screens. So no need for anymore detail. I always have my BMD on standby but so far I just keep using the R. 
 

Thanks for doing this test. I'm seeing very nothing here that I could not achieve with the D750. 
 
 
Thanks guys, every so often I need to get my GAS under control. Love the image from the D750, and my deliverable will not benefit from 4K very much.

Support gear and lighting it is!

I sometimes like to say that "AF for video hasn't been invented yet". And I'm only half kidding. The camera will never know where I want the focus. And like already mentioned, on big shoots you can have a focus puller, so AF in an Arri is probably not high on the priorities.
Loosley on the topic, found this a bit interesting to watch.
 

I don't really use video AF unless its a very specific occasion. And my main work camera is a Canon with DPAF, which is as good as it gets, specially in continuous.
With that said, the push AF feature on the BMPCC4K coupled with a native m4/3 lens should not be swept under the rug.
It is very usable and quite quick.
(No continues worth mentioning though.) 

This topic title is stupid 

You’re in luck... I have cats that sit by the window.
I wish I was in the market for one because you just described every scenario that it would be a blessing for me.

It's just to test the workflow so anything really. High DR is always useful and cats are cool

It begins.

Evaluating new cameras isn't my favorite thing, so I thought I'd share the pain. I've got a lot of work on ATM, so this will be an ongoing project. I might even end up making a youtube vid ?.
I've been shooting with the 5DMk3 ML raw exclusively for many years, you can check out some of my recent work here:
A few contenders have come along over the years like the A7s and BMMCC, but all have failed to measure up to the 5DMk3 with Magic Lantern raw. These jobs I did recently were particularly gruelling, up to 19 hour days, days on end, uncontrollable lighting, no recce, no crew, constantly on the move, a great stress test for any camera or operator. The weaknesses of the 5D have never been more apparent. With a slight lull in the storm, and some technical hurdles in upcoming work, I took the plunge and bought these two sought after bodies. Not being able to get a Pocket 4K for like 8 months allows a lot of time to pixel peep and contemplate the future. Pixel peeping is one thing, but you really don't know if it's for you until you test it for yourself, or wait for a crash test dummy like me to do the work for you.
Very early impressions: I have to say that of the 2 cameras, I was more excited about the arrival of the Pocket 4K, at least until I remembered the lens adapters I ordered haven't arrived yet. I rummaged through one of my four film detritus drawers and found 5, yes 5 ? Nex adapters (remnants from a brief Sony affair) but not a single M4/3 adapter of course. So I unboxed the P4K, grabbed one of my Canon batteries, and fired up the little beast. The fan: super quiet, probably the quietest fan I've ever heard, a non issue. The firmware: 6.2.1, no CDNG for me. For those who haven't heard: BMD have put a new touchscreen in the latest cameras that only works with 6.2.1 firmware. I'm not really fussed, the Braw stuff I've seen looks really good, and the file sizes are amazing, 4K Braw files are smaller than 5DMk3 raw 1080p files. UHD 12:1 Braw files are roughly the same size as 1080p ProRes HQ files,and 200Mbit/s 1080p X-T3 HEVC files.
I've had the X-T3 for a couple of days and I got an 18-55mm f/2.8-4 OIS lens with it. This lens is fantastic, creamy bokeh, and the OIS is amazing, I can get super steady shots at the long end handheld, I know I'm very late to the party with OIS, but wow. Can't wait to put an Iscorama anamorphic on this puppy, no 58-52mm step down rings in the detritus drawers either ?. Low light on the X-T3 is a mixed bag: up to 8000 ISO the noise is tolerable, film-like chroma grain, no fixed pattern noise, however: the X-T3 image falls apart in the shadows, that's a big minus. The other image related issue that comes to mind is: white balance. I had to go digging into the detritus drawer for a grey card! I mean srsly, what's the world coming to? I haven't used a grey card in years;  I'm so accustomed to shooting raw I just don't even think about white balancing anymore. I haven't drawn any conclusions on custom white balancing yet other than it's absolutely necessary with the X-T3 ?.
Ergonomics: the X-T3 is terrible in big hands, I rarely handhold a camera, rolling shutter micro jitters are a thing, but the OIS lens makes it doable. The Smallrig cage has a handgrip extension, so that may help. The P4K is much better in the hand.
Stay tuned.

What's funny is that if we look back at these wish lists from just a few years ago it's all been ticked, and then some. But we are quick to raise the bar and the marketing departments know it

Cool, might have to revisit this thing. Now days when Im 95% stills and do enjoy a good DSLR its an even better match.

Will be interesting to see how they compare. 
These videos looked great, the first one was my favorite. Gorgeous grade. And man does a shoulder rig beat gimbals imo..
Does ML work with an external monitor, any restrictions?
Know of any samples online for download?

What's funny is that if we look back at these wish lists from just a few years ago it's all been ticked, and then some. But we are quick to raise the bar and the marketing departments know it

What's funny is that if we look back at these wish lists from just a few years ago it's all been ticked, and then some. But we are quick to raise the bar and the marketing departments know it