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13 hours ago, herein2020 said:
even if this is true its not the end of the world
The problem is not what sensor does the R3 have, but if Sony is the only one who produces higher-end sensors. If Canon truly gave up sensor of their upcoming flagship (albeit temporary until R1 comes), this means that most probably development doesn't make sense for them and will be outsourced.
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So happy I went with Sony a7S III
- Rinad Amir, Tejima and Juank
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Downgrades compared to a7S III
No audio input on a gimbal (without top handle)
No IBIS
No EVF
No HDMI raw (Ninja V is two times cheaper than Shogun 7 and fits camera size better)
No audio in 100/120p mode (a7S III has that option in addition to S&Q)
No 10bit 4K Long GOP (a7S III has that codec option in addition to ALL-I)
Worse menu and touch AF
Worse AWB toolsHalf-upgrades compared to a7S III
Looks like DCI 4K (4096 × 2160px) is ~10% cropped for 1:1 readout instead of being slightly oversampled like UHD
Better cooling at the cost of weather sealingUpgrades compared to a7S III
Electronic ND
Waveform
SDI and SDI raw
Arguably better form-factor for handheld work
More professionally looking camera for a client that likes ... looking ... at your tools ...
Did I miss anything?
- filmmakereu, Video Hummus and Juank
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On 10/20/2020 at 2:25 PM, Geoff CB said:
It will look completely the same, but you WILL get a stop better lowlight performance. Sensor crop DOES NOT effect the light level hitting the sensor.
But it does 😄 No matter what camera do you use, 24-105 f/4 can transfer only a certain amount of light. Crop sensor collects light from a smaller area = less light collected compared to FF camera with the same lens. The speedbooster can only compensate that by focusing all of the light from the lens onto the smaller sensor area.
So 24-105 f/4 with a speed-booster will look just as it looks on full frame.
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On 10/12/2020 at 10:10 PM, currensheldon said:
the 24-105mm lenses that have great IS and still get you f2.8 or snag a 24-70mm and have an f2
It will look exactly like 24-105 f/4 on full frame (or 24-70 f/2.8). Even though the speedbooster "doubles the light", it only compensates the light initially subtracted by the sensor crop.
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14 hours ago, Electroholic Anonymous said:
the timer procedure kicks in very late in the startup process, after reading out user commands apparently. Very odd.
Very odd indeed! Might be last minute decision, or even part of plan to eventually "solve all issues" by the time camera truly ships.
14 hours ago, Electroholic Anonymous said:the time it records before it shuts down due to 'overheating' correlates with the time since the previous time it shuts down
This + the fact that @Andrew Reid had to use a formatted card after every "reset" might point to camera reading the contents of the card with time stamps to know if there was an 8K / 4K HQ etc. recorded recently.
I wonder what happens if you record 8K until camera overheats in one R5, then insert the same card into a different R5 ... if the code is this flawed (quite possible, since it looks to be a last minute thing) – the fresh R5 might think it is overheated without ever being powered on.
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21 minutes ago, mechanicalEYE said:
not going to buy a C300 mk iii or a RF cine camera in an attempt to fulfill the void in what they sold as the R5.
Same thing here! I will only buy an RF cine camera as an addition to hybrid camera because it's the main tool for what we do, even though we use video cameras for some projects.
- ntblowz, mechanicalEYE and Nautical
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1 hour ago, mechanicalEYE said:
ProAv talking about overheating, and customer response calls... The confusion of the R5. It's all weird!
As I've replied on YouTube – all modes "overheat"! It's just that the message about it is displayed only when switching to 8K / 4K HQ / slow motion.
Meaning: you can be sitting in the menus, or taking a couple of stills for an hour. As soon as you switch to video – camera will let you know it was "overheating" all this time and can no longer film. Even power off.
It puzzles me why won't Canon do a hybrid camera for all of us to eventually spend millions on RF glass?
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14 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:
It is probably pixel binned 4K via HDMI.
@Andrew Reid Sorry for re-posting, but you probably missed it – R5 does record 4K HQ via HDMI for 4 hours, not pixel binned.
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9 minutes ago, hijodeibn said:
comparison between 4K and 4KHQ and looks like 4K is totally usable
That topic has nothing to do with the issue: R5 in 4KHQ overheats while browsing menus and doesn't when filming externally without a card.
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1 hour ago, Andrew Reid said:
I think the 4K HQ option gets deactivated when the Ninja V is connected too
Nope – that is 4K HQ being output to Ninja V for sure
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6 hours ago, Yurolov said:
RF mount enables a focal reducer so people can use their EF glass to get a FF look
Same can be said Blackmagic Pocket, Sony FS5 or Komodo. You can also adapt without a focal reducer to a7S III, Panasonics, FX9 or use natively on Canon EF cameras.
6 hours ago, Yurolov said:SAME lenses - EF glass
RF mount is not the only solution for EF glass – RED, Blackmagic, Sony & Panasonic with adapters all work with EF glass.
"Ok so a lot wrong with this." "your statement is quite misguided and not very well thought out" – thanks for being so harsh without understanding my comments. I was talking about unique selling points of RF mount cameras: they are the only ones working with RF lenses.
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8 minutes ago, currensheldon said:
how does this not satisfy people who want an RF-mount camera for video?
Why would I want an RF camera for besides using RF glass for it, which is full frame? That is the unique selling point of RF mount camera, how does crop sensor make any sense? Adapt EF lenses? Why not go for c200 then? Or may be a7S III, which is more capable and full frame?
7 minutes ago, herein2020 said:no R5 replacement, this is video all the way
I chose my wording having that in mind: "no substitute for what R5 was promised to be" 😅 R5 was supposed to be video all the way as well, and a proper RF camera too (Full Frame, just as the lenses).
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c200 sensor makes no sense for RF glass and there is no chance it can be stabilized in it's current form. I also doubt the camera will do stills. In other words – it's no substitute for what R5 was promised to be and can hardly satisfy those who want to go RF for video capture.
Internal NDs are intriguing, they are probably placed instead of mechanical shutter. May be that has something to do with "two adapters have a new design and will not be compatible with current RF cameras"? Really wish it had full frame sensor at least, we'll see!
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I think it is possible Canon had several prototypes with slight differences, one of which had overheating problem mitigated. If so – this solution can theoretically be applied in 2-3 months, to have new units shipping with less overheating.
It is also possible that the problem is not as bad as the overheating safety feature is. A couple of reviewers pointed out that R5 doesn't get too hot to the touch, as well as a7SIII feeling hotter. Of course that may be attributed to better insulation.
In any case they have to address this if they want to sell more cameras to hybrid shooters. They don't risk loosing sales of their cinema cameras after all of this anyway XD
On the other hand, I've read on canonrumors that they're planning to release RF cinema camera this year ... R5C ? 😄
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4 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:
Did you read the article?
The 4K/60p and 4K/30/25p/24p overheats in a similar way to the 8K.
Instead of 20 minutes it is 30 minutes.
Rude replies are what you're best at 😄
In article images it says "oversampled", so presumably only oversampled 4K overheats. That oversampling is a toggle in the camera menu:
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To drive conversation a bit more towards cameras, Sonyalpharumors questioned the report:
1) Not so diligent journalist:
A reliable Japanese source told me this:
QuoteThat Bloomberg news must be fake. Original news were written in Japan. https://www.bloomberg.co.jp/news/articles/2020-02-14/Q5GJW3T0AFB601
This news were writtine by 望月崇 “Mochizuki Takashi”. He is notorious for fake news about Sony PS5. Due to several fake news, he got fired by WSJ. Be careful!2) Wrong Olympus new reporting:
Just recently Bloomberg said Olympus was considering selling their camera division and misquoted an Olympus manager to support the story. Well also this “rumor” was debunked directly by Olympus.
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In order to recover from our late entry into the mirrorless camera market, we have plans to launch a model that incorporates a newly developed image sensor and image-processing engine that offer even more advanced features.
Looks like Sony might delay a7S III once again 😄
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2 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:
No it mentions FF 1.2x crop in new A7 column as well, exact same as last time. If it did the faster frame rate in 6K full pixel readout, it wouldn't need to mention a 1.2x crop at all. Who wants a 1.2x crop mode as a 'feature', creatively speaking?
a73 description: FF in 24/25p; 1.2x Crop in 30p; Super 35 in 24/25/30p
a74 description: FF, 1.2 Crop, Super 35 in 24/25/30p
a7R4 description: Super 35, FF in 24/25/30p
Phrasing is different from a73 and implies that a74 is capable of 24/25/30p in all three crop modes whereas a73 has separate frame size specified for 24/25p vs 30p. a74 recording modes are described literally the same way as a7R4 are in this table – does a7R4 have a crop for 30p?
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1 hour ago, Andrew Reid said:
The sensor readout mode on the A7 IV is shown as once again 6K downsampled to 3840 x 2160 with a 1.2x crop if shooting 30p, which hints at the same sensor as before.
Heya Andrew! I think you misread the chart a bit whilst typing out the article: nowhere does it imply 1.2x crop for 30p for new a7, that is only mentioned for current a7 III (= Cheers!
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@Andrew Reid even though I do agree on Gizmodo's journalism quality, nonetheless it's still part of the same free-speech world all of us are in favor of. They are free to share publicly available info, it was also encouraged just days ago.
@Video Hummus thanks for understanding mate! Weird someone could assume it's possible for a person to be that silly as well as manage getting through registration on a forum.
@Shaocaholica https://gizmodo.com/why-is-apple-flexing-on-high-end-camera-company-red-ove-1837302653
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Still there for me, "sign a non-disparagement agreement" links here:
https://www.eoshd.com/2019/08/jinni-tech-claims-red-compressed-raw-patent-filing-is-invalid/
Development announcement of Canon EOS R3
In: Cameras
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As a response to EOSHD, Canon said the following:
PetaPixel: Canon Rebuffs Rumors That Its R3 Sensor is Made by Sony
This gets interesting (=
*if you're reading this, hi Canon! 😄