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The shogun can take FS700 4K RAW as 10-bit prores right? Although it doesn't do the super high frame rates. Correct me if I'm wrong but it's capped out at 120FPS FHD, right?
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Damnit I recently bought a shogun
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Wolfcrow has a rather extensive a7s system I wouldn't hesitate recommending.
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It's simply a dof adaptor on steroids. a modified bmpcc inside a larger camera body, capturing an image from medium format lenses on n oversized medium format rear projection screen (made from ground glass) through a relay lens array and prism. think of it as a macro lens filming a medium format focusing screen. Before the 5Dmk2 came round, people were using similar things to get a 35mm format look. it would appear even the best options back then were pretty bad quality, and there was a lot of diy stuff too. It would appear not one of them were refined to the level they could have been. i decided to go mental and make an ultra refined one. its taken about 2 years of back and fourth, improving each element of the design. the most complicated part was the relay lens design getting resolution and even exposure accross such a huge area. i think the next version will be the final unit with the final refinements to make it a system suitable for dry hire use.
very impressive! Definitely keep us posted. Do you plan to make a few and rent them out then?
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Can you explain the Forbes 70 a bit, rich? I must have missed the first news. This looks great though
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Loved the first vid. Looking good!
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Comedy and sci-fi/action. Maybe some day I'll have enough money to make something
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i wonder if something like this could be used to make contax G glass useable
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That's a $9000 camera. What do you mean "for the price"?
Isn't an URSA cheaper for comparable quality?
Well I was talking about after you've rigged it out. And yes the ursa 4.6k looks terrific but the kinemax does have some distinguishing features. 6K is significantly more resolution than 4.6K. Clean 6400 iso vs 1600 max on the ursa.Interchangeable mounts. Speedbooster available. More resolution, frame rate, crop options, shooting to ssd vs expensive cfast.
No global shutter though!
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But would you buy it? Or wait and see?
I will probably wait and see, not because I think the product itself is poor quality (pretty much anyone who comes into contact with a kinefinity camera says the build quality is good): but because I'm unsure how the customer service is going to be for US customers. Barely anyone here has the camera so if it's a hassle to have serviced, or to use the warranty or something, I want to know before I plunk down 15 grand.
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This camera looks so amazing for the price. I like the look of the footage more than a lot of cameras that are way more expensive. And clean low light up to 6400 is icing on the cake
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Looks amazing wow
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A used mk II with this and magic lantern would make a pretty nifty full frame, raw camera on the cheap. How does ML do on the mk II?
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Talk about boring footage
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I find kit lenses to be near worthless. I'd recommend an old 50mm lens and maybe an old manual zoom if you want range. I know autofocus is nice for stills but I get by with manual even for stills unless I'm shooting sports or hummingbirds lol. The image quality will be much greater and the build quality on those vintage manual lenses tend to be awesome.
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A larger sensor will give you less DoF at a given f-stop than a smaller camera. At F5.6 more will be in focus on a Panasonic GH4 than a Sony A7RII for instance. If separation is imperative, you either go for a larger sensor, or really fast lenses on smaller sensor cameras. If you want extremely shallow focus, you can combine the two and get a super fast lense for Full Frame. Personally, my Nocticron 42.5mm at f1.2 is as shallow as I would EVER want even on m43. I cannot imagine using something that offers a more shallow focus.
Back to the discussion though - I agree, I think the perception has become that shallow focus is more cinematic, but as you and others point out, it isn't REALLY so. It's a combination of many factors, and to some degree, it is subjective.
Yeah I know, I just mixed up the terminology. Sorry.
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The film industry is moving to larger sensors #Fact
Also outside of S35 crop format the Samsung lacks, dynamic range and color to even be anywhere close to considered a film camera.
You referring to color science or bit depth? From what I've seen the nx has great color science.
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Honestly even now super shallow DOF is pretty uncommon for theatrical movies. I think the nice thing about larger sensors is that you can get a sharper image for a given DOF. F/5.6 on full frame will give you a sharp image and more DOF than F/5.6 on m43 or super 16.
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It sure is, but to be fair you'd very rarely pan the camera that fast and if you needed to, I guess you can just put it into Sport Mode. RS is also very evident on Armin Dierolf's footage:
This footage looks great to me!
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The rolling shutter is an issue but one we've dealt with since the a7s and nx1. Full readout 6K is no joke. Will be interested to see the sport mode. Made a big difference on the kine mini. I think the sport mode this time is 4k instead of 2k. Looking forward to new tests.
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Although in the right hands the FS7 will make fantastic images, it does have some flaws:
1. You can't use the E-mount zoom designed for it. Though ergonomically superior, it *always* produces videoish images, even at it's widest aperture, which is only f4.0!
2. You can adapt EF-lenses, but as of now, you will find that the camera and the lens can't communicate reliably. In the middle of a shoot, you suddenly can't change the aperture.
3. You can't judge focus on the bad display/EVF. Unbelievable for a 4k camera. You'll need peaking. But then, the display being so small and soft, you wish you didn't.
It's the DR. It's black, white or grey and very little in between. GH2 league at most. Look at the sunset at 1'38". My 6-bit field monitor has more vivid colors.
Yikes yeah I've seen the useable DR measured at 8.5 stops! For a $10000 cinema camera in 2015! No wonder nobody bought it.
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If you're getting a shogun id go a7s over the rII . Cheaper, better low light, great FF and S35 modes.Just more info and real world testing all around
Edit: rereading, I think that youre only considering the shogun for the a7s. Makes sense. Makes the question more difficult. You planning to shoot with a shoulder rig the whole time? Any gimball stuff?