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I wonder what the used market is looking like. Because someone who was a new photo enthusiast and did little research can get a used DSLR and lenses for fraction of the cost on a camera 5-8 years old and the images really hold up. Not mention people selling off gear they don't use to pay their bills while unemployed. 

I had the first Ursa Mini 4.6k and though it was a really good image. Blackmagic reliability was super poor. First one had the magenta issue, then they sent me new one after a friend got me chance to directly talk to Grant Petty at Cine Gear Los Angeles and they sent me a new one. Got the new one and less than year completely died on a shoot and was barely used. Sent me a third one and to deal with the IR, Moire and aliasing issues that plagued it had to buy a special third party sensor filter. By that time I gave up and saved up enough for a RED Dragon X then upgraded it to a Gemini and has been a solid work horse. I also passed over the pocket 4ks for the GH5s for smaller projects because they are not plagued with reliability issues. As much as I loved the first Ursa look and use Da Vinci resolve constantly I just can't ever go back after being burned on the Ursa Mini.  

So the 12k is impressive tech and hope one day they can be reliable cameras because I did love the image coming from them Blackmagic. I wouldn't not mind paying more for there cameras if there quality control was reliable. I want them to be hire end solid cameras. 

But I fear from their history the 12k will be pushed out way to fast and be another few years of issues by then the next thing will be announced and the business model continues. 

Also lets not forget they promised global shutter on the Ursa Mini 4.6k and took preorders and then when they arrived the Global shutter mode was a lie and was taken away, HDMI out was taken away, and also accelerometers for VFX was no where to be seen.  I bet what they announced today some of the feature will disappear. Like 12k 60p and 8K 110 fps.  Or even 12k. They might be 12k sensor sampled to 8k or 6k.  

I knew there was something wrong with this. I thought Canon was going to leap forward but who were we kidding. Think about it. Canon always wants to protect their cinema cameras. This makes working filmmakers go ugggg I can't work with that and come up with more to buy the new cinema cameras.  And the main target is hobbyist/prosumer who want the best specs on paper or a photographer who want to grab a shots that the quality will hold up to the quality of the stills.

It not meant for film or video production. They do not want it to be. But they want those specs to get the people to buy the R5 but are also the people who would never go all out and buy the C500 MK II because they have no real need for it. 

It keeps a strong divide from Professional and Prosumer customers. Prosumer want the best specs to show off there toy but don't have a reason to spend the pro level. Pro level needs stuff to work and are willing to spend for it. Two separate groups to sell two separate products too.  

After reading about this I have no interest in ever using this camera on a set, its not a video or cinema camera. My inexpensiveness GH5S do amazing work for docs and B-Camera with my Red Gemini in a pinch or crash cam. Ill stick with Panasonic because they do have the best balance of both world or Pro and Prosumer.  Maybe I will look into the DC-S1H or the next generation as a replacement.    

Hi I have a documentary coming up and need to travel light for it. I want bring alot of SD cards and record to 2 cards at once instead of bring hard drives along for back up. 

What are the cheapest and most reliable SD cards for the 4k 10bit 150mbps?

I use the SanDisk 128GB Extreme PRO UHS-I SDXC Memory Card 95MB/S flawlessly with that record setting.

But I noticed there is a new generation of the Extreme Pro that is faster and also the lower level cards SanDisk Extreme (non Pro) versions are rated at 150MB/S and $20 cheaper for the 256gb. 

Are people using the lower level non Pro versions with any issues? 

30 minutes ago, BenEricson said:

Looks nice. I love a compact setup.

Do you shoot mostly at night or in low luminance areas? It can be a struggle to compete with natural light in a bright space, having a few 5/1s can a life saver to create a nice look. 

The goal of the kit was for indoor use or night time wouldn't be much help with on a sunny day. Maybe one day lights will be the efficient. 

Anyone try the Benro A673TM, Libec ALX T, Acebil T750M? Or should I just get the Manfrotto 546B used? 

Just now, webrunner5 said:

I would buy used ones if you can. Legs don't seem to bring much money used compared to Fluid Heads.

Thanks but  which one? 

What are the best tripod legs for under $500 and can handle over 15lbs?

What is the major difference between the two? I am seeing Samsung and Sandisk Micro SDXC cards cheaper than the SDXC cards but with the same read and write or even faster read speeds. I thought Micro SD cards being smaller and priced cheaper would be slower?

Is there something I am missing. Like are the Micro SDXC less reliable than the full size ones? I would be using them with my GH5S with the 4k 10bit 150mbps not the 400mbps setting. 

I have 2 Samsung 64gb EVO Micro SDXC I have few times used with the GH5S when in a jam for more cards on a shoot and didn't have any issues. Am I running a risk using those? Mostly I use 64gb Lexar 633 SDXC and SanDisk Extreme Pro 128GB SDXC UHS-I Card.

Am I wasting money buying the Lexar 633 and Sandisk Extreme Pro for the GH5S 150mbps mode? 

1 hour ago, CaptainHook said:

 

Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K ‘Models Walking in Daylight’

John Brawley talks about the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K for the first time. ‘Models Walking in Daylight’ is his first camera test where he checked out the camera’s ability to handle different skin tones.

“The whole point to this daylight test was to see how the camera handled skin tones. We were shooting these scenes later in the afternoon, so I was at ISO1000 or 1250, so it was at the lower ISO for this camera. I understand this gives more in dynamic range, so you have a little bit more highlight-headroom there. When I look at those shots now, I am really impressed at how good the dynamic range is. It is great to see all of that detail I was seeing was actually captured in those shots.”

“I don’t think people realize how easy it is to make things look cinematic with Micro Four Thirds! I know that there are a lot of people who like that 35mm full frame look, but it’s still very easy to get images with an out of focus background with the Micro Four Thirds sensor. I found it a great 4K sensor and really good compromise for a small camera that still gets really, really good looking pictures.”

Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K
Apple ProRes 422 HQ 
ISO1000 and 1250
Olympus Pro 25, 45, 1.2 micro and Olympus Pro 12-100 F4 zoom Micro Four Thirds lenses

Went to their Vimeo account and downloaded the upload file for this to see the least compressed version instead of youtube. I have been working a lot with the GH5s since they came out this year and in middle of coloring 2 projects with them. I can diffidently tell the noise pattern and grain feel the same or close. This seems little sharper maybe the lack of OLPF and IR filter. Colors seem little nicer, but at first glance feel very similar. I might rent one when they come out and compare there differences. At the end of the day I will probably stick with the GH5S no matter what, I have had to many projects with blackmagic cameras failing on me and really ruined working relationships with producers and directors on those projects.  

But I am reading 

45 minutes ago, webrunner5 said:

It pretty much means you can't use the cheap ones. Gee, imagine my surprise 5 dollars ones don't work. Just like my cheap ones didn't work for my Sony A7s firmware updates. If you want to go you have to pay. ?

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1250777-REG/atomos_atom4k60c5_hdmi_type_a_male_to.html

 

I am reading reviews on amazon about even these where having issues. I need to make sure when I role on a take its bullet proof and not going to screw up a shot. 

So from people reviews the Atomos recorders and HDMI cables are not reliable? If the cables are this finicky how are they worth it during a crucial shot? Should I cancel my preorder and get faster SD Cards for the 400mbps mode and deal with out having 4k 60p 10bit?

1 hour ago, webrunner5 said:

If you read the questions in this link you will find it is nearly your Only option for 10 bit 4K. Open up the first one in the Q&A section.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1250777-REG/atomos_atom4k60c5_hdmi_type_a_male_to.html

Take those with a grain of salt. I have been bought off buy a company to have b&h photo remove a negative review I posted about there product.

57 minutes ago, webrunner5 said:

I would imagine Any HDMI cable that has a Name you recognize is a good one. Sony, Panasonic, Samsung, on and on. Almost every one of those cheap ones on Amazon are the same HDMI cable with a different name you never heard of, or associate the name with cheap ass stuff.

When I looked up Rocketfish on Amazon it looks to me they make kind of cheap overpriced stuff also.

https://www.amazon.com/Rocketfish/b/ref=bl_dp_s_web_2530318011?ie=UTF8&node=2530318011&field-lbr_brands_browse-bin=Rocketfish

Do you have a specific one you have used with the Atomos Recorder and the GH5 or GH5S at 4k 60p and recommend? 

I do not mean $10 cheap. But $90 to $150 for a cable, that is way over priced. They'll break and get lost on shoots, all HDMI cables eventually do. I am trying to be cautious with money, I like to have multiple redundancies as back up for every gear item I own. But when a little item like that can cost me $150 every shoot because of camera crew losing them or breaking them I need to do my homework into ones that make logical economic sense. Reliability and cost effectiveness.

I am well aware of cheap are not being safe but in the world of HDMI Cables I am trying to figure out what is cheap and what is not and what is way overpriced because Atomos can market it that way.

So if I can just get help with finding alternatives that people have had experience or know of some reviews that have been made would be much appreciated than being off topic about people being to cheap and being screwed. 

Can we turn this post into a useful productive list for known HDMI cables to be reliable and work with Atomos Recorders at 4k 60p  with the GH5 and GH5s. Also that would be between 1.5ft to 3ft and not cost $150.

Here I can start the list here from what I have learned and people can build upon it based off of there own experience or reviews they share. Lets not just based it off of specs listed from unknown amazon brands and argue about them. 

At the top we have the Atomos Cables.

Atomos AtomFLEX HDMI (Type-A) Male to HDMI (Type-A) Male Coiled Cable (16 to 32") $149

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1250778-REG/atomos_atom4k60c6_hdmi_type_a_male_to.html

Atomos AtomFLEX HDMI (Type-A) Male to HDMI (Type-A) Male Coiled Cable (12 to 24") $89

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1250777-REG/atomos_atom4k60c5_hdmi_type_a_male_to.html

jonpais was kind enough to share his experience, trial and error with cables and has had success with Rocketfish HDMI Cables.

Rocketfish™ - 1.5' 4K Ultra HD In-Wall HDMI Cable - Black $19.99 

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/rocketfish-1-5-4k-ultra-hd-in-wall-hdmi-cable-black/2059068.p?skuId=2059068

Rocketfish™ - 4' 4K Ultra HD In-Wall HDMI Cable - Black $29.99

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/rocketfish-4-4k-ultra-hd-in-wall-hdmi-cable-black/3720002.p?skuId=3720002

I pre-ordered the Atomos Ninja V recorder to go with my GH5S. I noticed that Atomos is recommending there HDMI cables to guarantee no issues with 4k 60p. But there $90 and $150 for one HDMI cable. 

Does anyone know how necessary there hdmi cables are? Is anyone having issues with the other Atomos Recorders at 4k 60p with non Atomos HDMI cables on the GH5 or GH5S? Any recommended HDMI cables brands that are not insanely expensive?

I have the GH5S how far off would the look be to use this on them? 

mpc-hc is working vlc is freaking out and crashing. Any chance there is a way to add a lut to mpc-hc? What about for mac?

Hi what is the difference between the original Metabones Nikon G to Micro Four Thirds Speed Booster and the newer Metabones Speed Booster Ultra 0.71x Adapter for Nikon F-Mount Lens to Micro Four Thirds-Mount Camera?

Was there any improvement added to the class or mounts with the newer one? 

Looking to buy one used. 

Is there a standalone player out there yet for the GH5 and GH5s 10bit files? Its frustrating that I have to open Premiere or Resolve to review or tell the director or producer you cant play them back outside of an editing program. 

So last night I was using my GH5s, elgato gaming hdmi to usb device and my laptop for a facebook live stream. I was using the OBS software for live streaming and everything worked out pretty well. 

But I was thinking of using my laptop and the capture device as a on set monitor when I need to pack light. Is there any software like OBS but just for viewing with monitor tools. I want to be able to have histograms, peaking, wave forums and zebras but be independent from the camera operator?

Hi I am receiving my GH5s this weekend and it will be my first time working with the GH series of cameras. When dealing with Vlog what is the official workflow to Rec 709 for Premiere and Resolve? Is there an official LUT for Vlog to REC709? I cant find anything on Panasonic website.

I am used to shooting on the Mini Ursa 4.6k, C300 MK II and FS7 and being provided official REC 709 luts for their flat and logs modes.  

7 hours ago, Django said:

right i've seen you link that a couple times here.. it was Andrew though that initially got me to seriously consider the D750 with this blog entry:

http://www.eoshd.com/2014/09/nikon-d750-review-initial-thoughts-real-world-footage-ladies-gentleman-contender/

I've since shot a few docus, including one that was screened at Le Louvre and got me a standing ovation by some pretty prominent art critics..

I switched to Canon a couple months ago and although the C100 is nothing but joy, 5D3 pre ML RAW was a giant step back for me from D750.

And even with ML RAW.. I must admit I do really miss the D750. Something about that sensor & the colour science. 

Everybody always raves about Canon.. but Nikon perhaps fits my aesthetic even better..

I am going to need to upgrade to 4K body/system in 2017. As of right now, only Sony fits the bill.. but here is to hoping for a 4K D760.

All that's missing aside 4k is dual pixel type phase AF, peaking and indeed maybe a super flat Nikon Log profile to kill 5D4/A7S/R2.

I feel like we may get at least half that extra.. Nikon may claim to not want to alienate their still photogs, but in reality they are paying close attention to the competition (especially Canon) and I believe will try and trump them feature wise, which includes video. 

Finally lets' not forget they did put out the Filmmaker kit in partnership with Atomos, so they definitely got videographers on their radar - at least with the D7xx line:

I hate working with Sony products and just up graded to the mini ursa 4.6k. But I still use my nikon for smaller projects and shoot still on it all the time. 

7 hours ago, Django said:

I dunno what exactly you guys seem to complain about. The Nikon D750 introduced in 2014 is a FF camera with zebras, 60FPS, tilting screen and a Flat profile. May not be as good as Sony, but is a hell lot better then what Canon is offering, and Nikon doesn't even have a dedicated pro video department..

I sold My Nikon D750 for the Sony A7r II and hated every moment of it (along with the FS7 and A7s I use at work). Then I sold the Sony A7r II to buy again a D750 for its reliability, low rolling shutter, good flat profile, and really good color science to shoot this earlier this year. 

The Shots at comic con at the beginning and end were a mix of GH4 and Nikon D750.