Matias Mayolo

7 hours ago, Marcio Kabke Pinheiro said:

Fuji's DR modes, even for stills, are probably the most confused / undocumented feature of their cameras. Never read a really good explanation on how it really works and the best methods to use it.

According to FUJI: "On FUJIFILM cameras, Dynamic Range works by first deliberately underexposing the image to protect highlight detail, then boosting shadow brightness when the sensor data is converted in a JPEG file by the image processor"

Pretty much all the brands offer a function like this, but in fuji it works way better. And it works very good in video. In photo mode, it DIRECTLY affects the raw files

I've found out testing that at the lower isos, 320 at DR200 and 640 at DR400 the amount of noise that this modes add, in a daylight scenario, is pretty negligible, but the detail you recover in the highlights is very noticeable. So I change it depending on the DR of the scene. If I just need a little bit of DR I use DR200, if I need more I use DR400, but if I don't need any, I just leave it at DR100 (Which is the base) to get the cleanest image possible. But when shooting at high ISOs in dark conditions (above 1600), both modes, specially DR400 add too much noise, purple noise and some weird artifacts start to show up, the image becomes pretty ugly, so I don't recommend at all leaving it always turned on. Use it ONLY when you need it. It does not change the shadows, mids, colors, or anything, so you can use totally match DR100, D200 and DR400 in a scene

On 11/5/2020 at 10:07 PM, Andrew Reid said:

Yes of course it's multiple frames at different exposes fused together. Tap the shutter button and it's done for you, by a neural network no-less, with AI. And certainly more than just 3 frames fused together, due to the speed of the sensor.

The GFX 100 burst isn't fast enough for this to work.

It does show that small, fast smartphone sensors can overcome shortcomings like dynamic range, with computational photography.

They have never been able to beat a medium format camera, massive 44x33mm sensor with 100 megapixel before.

The Huawei is the first to do this.

Had you used DR400 for 2 stops extra of dynamic range? 

I think the DR200 and DR400 are one of the gems of Fuji that almost nobody is talking about. It works in a similar way to DRO on Sony or HTP in Canon, it uses a lower ISO and it increases the shadows electronically (so it does add noise to the shadows) but I think that the processing done by Fuji is pretty good and in daylight and lower ISOs, 640 for DR400 you can get an image with the exact same dynamic range as F-log without using a log profile. And the extra noise in the shadows is pretty much the same noise that you'll get with F-log or HLG. At higher isos the image become too noisy but keeping it low, it's beautiful.

The tonal mapping done by Fuji in DR200 (1 stop extra) and DR400 (2 stops extra) gives you a very organic looking high dynamic range image. And the MOST IMPORTANT PART is that it works with VIDEO. The X-T3, X-T30, X-T4 have it, i guess the GFX 100 must have it. It's not the exact same as exposure bracketing, but using ETERNA profile, shadows -2, highlights -2, DR400 you can get a pretty amazing dynamic range.

Unless necessary, of if someone asks for it for color grading, for a lot of works, I pretty much don't shoot log since using the DR modes.

It would probably still not match the Huawei but you'll get 2 extra stops if dynamic range!

This is a feature that I never see people talking about Fuji for video. Here are some stills from video.

35 minutes ago, Emanuel said:

Or the Zoom F1-LP then:

The cool thing about the zoom is that you can add microphone capsules, and you can transform your recorder into whatever you want, there's a an omni mic, a shotgun mic and more. Pretty cool. The not so cool is that it doesn't have dual recording (a second track at -6db or -12db). I personally prefer the dual recording feature.

I moved from the Tascam to a third option but it's not as practical for the use of weddings I guess, it's the Roland R-07, its a portable recorder a little bit bigger than these two, it has two built in mics, it has dual recording too, and you can control it trough Bluetooth from both a phone, and monitor the audio through Bluetooth headphones, at the same time. In theory it's an awesome recorder but in real life the app is buggy and half of the times disconnects from the recorder and has very short range, and the bluetooth headphones too (I have cheap ones). Still, for interviews in a close range or stuff like that, it works like a charm ?

On 9/7/2019 at 4:12 AM, MrSMW said:

Well I thought I’d give it another go and repurchased another set.

But with a caveat and that is I am double-backing up audio and only using the Go as an actual lapel mic (rather than in pocket with lav mic) or attached to a lectern in direct line of sight.

Excellent speeches last weekend, but less so Ceremony when granny doing her reading stood in front of the lectern and not behind it as 99.999999999% of all human beings would. And then spoke in the quietest voice in human history.

Weddings... ?

(Backing up as in I have 2 other Sony audio recorders, sometimes with shotgun mics, nearby either table top, fastened to something or velcroed to a wall!)

You could record to a Tascam DR-10L which is one of the smallest recorders (you get dual backup recording as well, at -6db or -12db) and get the audio from the headphones output to the Go. That would make a very small and affordable recording solution, I can't think about a smaller recorder with dual recording. They already come with a lavalier, but if you already have a good ones you can sell them and it'll be cheaper. The tascam DR-10C comes without the mic and has a signal pass through but you can't get it in the US. For the budget you can't go wrong, I wouldn't trust on any affordable wireless transmitter receiver without a backup.

Actually you could just record the whole thing ONLY with the Tascam DR-10L but you wouldn't be able to monitor the audio. It's really small and you can clip it to a belt or whatever:

I was expecting this post!!! Thanks Andrew! EOSHD is the only website to acknowledge that the two cameras have nothing new, but they are a rebadged mashup of the previous APS-C cameras, they just added a flip screen, HLG, autofocus and processor from the A6400 and only the batteries from the A73 series. Otherwise, pure shit. All of the other websites praising the new battery, the AF speed, come on, it's the same camera.
I changed from Sony to Fuji because I needed to shot lots of 1080 50p (I live in a PAL country) and I was tired of the constant decreasing quality of the 1080p on Sony APS-C cameras, it's a REAL shit, It's canon-like shit, it has no detail, lots of moire and aliasing, and not even gonna talk about slow-mo which is even worse. The 1080p quality started to decrease from the A6300, which is worse than the A6000. As you can check out here, I had both and it's true.

14 hours ago, plucas said:

When I think about a future camera to purchase, I like to look at what creators and filmmakers use more than what they recommend or exalt. I have heard every high praise for the XT-3; camera of the year 2018 from multiple folk. And yet I hear that sales are slow, camera stores struggle to move them, and while plenty of creators use it I'm sure, none that I follow on YouTube appear to - not regularly, if they own one - even though they've reviewed it positively. One guy even said he was looking to switch from his Sonys because the color and image takes a lot of work to get right and tried the XT-3 but wasn't thrilled with the image and settled on an EOS R.

So what's the story? Is it that good?

I bought the X-T30, because I was a bit short of money..
And I'm more than happy, the colors are awesome, you can get a nice baked in color if you want or a really flat image with lots of information without having to use F-log, you have way less rolling shutter, you have plenty of options for dynamic range, it has a beautifully detailed 1080p image, and from that an almost unchanged 1080p 100-120fps. You could just shoot everything in 100fps that you wouldn't notice the difference, but you have no audio   ?‍♂️ . You can shoot with an HDMI monitor and you DON'T loose you LCD scree image, none of the Sony can do that. The only thing I miss from Sony is the AF on video... that is something that Fuji is bit behind, you got less options, it's not as reliable, for tracking a face it's fine, other things, not as much as Sony.

You can check out video resolution in here, it's a great tool to know the resolving power of cameras in different resolutions. It's for sharpness only, you can't check other features like iso, dynamic range, etc. But it's good enough and quite reliable.

https://***URL removed***/reviews/image-comparison/fullscreen?attr29_0=sony_a6300&attr29_1=fujifilm_xt30&attr72_0=1080&attr72_1=1080&normalization=full&widget=636&x=-0.04440091689095804&y=0.2513405105351813

3 hours ago, Emanuel said:

With 2cameraAPI you can have both log and up to 200Mbps. 48MP Samsung or Sony sensors based brought by Redmi is the best price ratio you'll find out there : -)

 

Can you really get LOG?? I haven't seen any phone that shoot log, or any footage, the only thing so far that I've seen to achieve LOG dynamic range is phones withe Filmic Pro and the log features. I've seen those 48mp sensors, those are amazing, I've seen a LOT of better phones for photography, WAY better. But on the photo side, video specs are quite impresive, shotting 40 60p, amazing stabilization, good lowlight capabilities, but none of those shoot really cinematic images, with cinematic I mean with a good dynamic range, good highlight detail, not over-sharpened. Can you show me some log footage shot on a phone with camera 2 api? when I said S-log2 like dynamic range I ment this:  

Left is the LG V30, and Right is the A6300 with the 18-105mm f4 OSS, shooting with S-log2. Both in 4k, LG allows to shoot log at iso 50, while the Sony A6300 has a minimum of iso 800. The iso difference means that actually at the lowes possible iso for log shooting the LG has cleaner shadows:

but the detail, for being JUST a phone, and a ~$170 one, is quite amazing:

The lens used, the sony 18-105mm it's not the best one, and I should have stoped down to f5,6 to have a cleaner image, but looking at the shadow and highlights detail on the phone, I'm quite amazed.

I'm writing a little late this cause everyone already revealed what camera they used. It was a very good surprise to know with which cameras the different videos were recorded!! The results were quite amazing! 

I had a little doubt about whether if my choice was within the rules or not. I shot it on a LG V30, yes, I shot it on a smartphone, which tecnicaly it's not a camera, but it can shoot video, I didn't used or paid any third party app, I used the stock camera. And the phone (which obviously comes with the lens) costs way less than $200.

It shoots 4K with an amazing stock camera app, with all manual controls and shoots in LG LOG. It has quite an amazing dynamic range (s-log2 dynamic range level, not kidding). It has some quirks, which I'm gonna talk about in a video. It has some weird color shifts in LG LOG that need to be corrected, it has a really low 48mbps bitrate in 4K, not good for lowlight. But still, it is a camera under $200.

The youtube compression didn't helped with the image quality so I've uploaded a 4K version of it. If someone is in the look for an affordable smartphone that shoots AMAZING video, I see this as the BEST ONE.

I'm submitting this 50 mins after the deadline, I don't know if I'm in or if I'm out... Damn, I know that this thread has been open since around a month, but didn't had time, didn't thought on participate, and last week I thought about it and said "let's give it a try".. unfortunately didn't had any time, and just today I was able to sit in front of the computer to edit.. so sorry for the quality, I tried to do the best I could on the image part but didn't even had time to normalize and do something with the audio ?‍♂️

I hope it's good enough. The camera used can be bought used from $124 very used, and all the way up to $200 in mint condition.

I aded a BONUS SHOTS part where I put some unrelated and random shots with different lighting conditions to see how the camera performs on those situations.

Here is the link, it's still uploading:

I need some advice from someone with experience in small gimbals like beholder DS1, Zhiyun Crane or similar. I need to redo some shots similar to ones that I did before in this teaser

https://vimeo.com/171025186 Pass: cinemamemoria16.  

That's just a teaser made with things that what we had at the moment. I needed some really smoth movements and the only way to get them was to use the slowmo capabilities of the GH4, but with that we had the tradeoffs of shooting at a minimum shutter of 1/100 , and the only stabilized lens we had was the kit lens.. Yes, way far than the optimum, and the place was really dark so we had to crank up the iso. 

I wuold like to know by someone that have some experience if I can do that kind of movements with a small gimbal, bigger ones like the ronin are a bit out of budget (Yes I live in a third word country, it's a shit). I know that the movements can be a bit diferent that using a good gimbal, but if I can get the same things with one of those, I will be able to shot in 4K, use non IS lenses, an 1 stop lower shutter speed, with that, I will be OK. 

Any other sugestion will be welcomed! Thanks!! 

This is the 2nd time I write in this forum..
First, Andrew.. you are great! I follow EOSHD since the GH2 years.
But I have a critic to say about te review, you haven't mentioned the improvementes on DR in comparison to the A6000.
And in this case the very strong color grading from FilmConvert seem to kill the improved dynamic range that this camera should have with the addition of the picture profiles, I can see a lot of blow out highlights, for example on the studio. It would be nice to see the original footage.

Even with way better lowlight performance, apsc sensor, customizable picture profiles, 120fps, better AF, and things that I liked from the A6000. 
With that rolling shutter, overheating, and shitty 1080p... Those are really deal breakers.. I will stick to my GH4 until a new release

Really wanted this to be my nex camera.

Sony will never give you all the best they have in one camera.. unless you pay a lot for it.

Hi everybody. Mostly this forum convinced me to change my outdated T3i for an A6000. When I read about the this camera I didn't noticed anyone complaining about this wasn't a "world cam" and not NTSC/PAL switchable. So, I didn't worried about this... I'm from Argentina, we use PAL, and I got someone to bring me one from USA. And right now, after testing it.. can't find an option to record 25 or even 30p, only 24p and 60p 60i. If this is NTSC only, should it have at least 30p isn't? Does anyone had the same problem? Here is a picture of the options. The European model has 25p 50p? and is NTSC/PAL swichable?