Cliff Totten
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Cliff Totten got a reaction from newfoundmass in 4 way battle - rating the chances of Panasonic vs Canon vs Nikon vs Sony full frame mirrorless systems
I think that Panasonic has the biggest balls of any of the big companies. With the GH5 and GH5-5 they had ZERO fear to market against the bigger sensor companies. I always thought they were like a wolverine in the forest absolutely willing and eager to attack wolves, mountain lions ang grizzely bears all day long....absolutely agressive and fearless.
If we see them going full frame with that same ferocious mentality. My God, they will dump everything known to man into that thing. They will do things that Sony and Canon will be too terrified to do. 10bit CODECS, All I frame, 6k sensor readout and internal recording. Anamorphic modes....maybe even raw sensor data output? Yeah.....they got the biggest marketing balls.
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Cliff Totten got a reaction from Jimbo in 4 way battle - rating the chances of Panasonic vs Canon vs Nikon vs Sony full frame mirrorless systems
I think that Panasonic has the biggest balls of any of the big companies. With the GH5 and GH5-5 they had ZERO fear to market against the bigger sensor companies. I always thought they were like a wolverine in the forest absolutely willing and eager to attack wolves, mountain lions ang grizzely bears all day long....absolutely agressive and fearless.
If we see them going full frame with that same ferocious mentality. My God, they will dump everything known to man into that thing. They will do things that Sony and Canon will be too terrified to do. 10bit CODECS, All I frame, 6k sensor readout and internal recording. Anamorphic modes....maybe even raw sensor data output? Yeah.....they got the biggest marketing balls.
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Cliff Totten got a reaction from arson519 in 4 way battle - rating the chances of Panasonic vs Canon vs Nikon vs Sony full frame mirrorless systems
I think that Panasonic has the biggest balls of any of the big companies. With the GH5 and GH5-5 they had ZERO fear to market against the bigger sensor companies. I always thought they were like a wolverine in the forest absolutely willing and eager to attack wolves, mountain lions ang grizzely bears all day long....absolutely agressive and fearless.
If we see them going full frame with that same ferocious mentality. My God, they will dump everything known to man into that thing. They will do things that Sony and Canon will be too terrified to do. 10bit CODECS, All I frame, 6k sensor readout and internal recording. Anamorphic modes....maybe even raw sensor data output? Yeah.....they got the biggest marketing balls.
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Cliff Totten got a reaction from Grumble in DJI Mavic Pro II
Just got my II-Pro today. WOAH!,...the image quality is LIGHT YEARS ahead of the old Mavic Pro. Noise processing is fantastic. Shadows are clean and not washed out. No 15 frame temporal NR pulsing. If you add +1 on sharpness, noise reduction backs off even more. This camera looks VERY detailed on both FOV and HQ crop modes.
Even better news....the stability of this aircraft and it's ability to perform flawless yaw movements is like none other that I have flown. I have flown, Mavic Pro, Mavic Air, Phantom 4 Pro, Phantom 4 Pro V2.0 and Inspire 2. This one is THE winner and is absolutely buttery smooooooth. Woah!
It's clear to me now that you can't judge any detail of this camera on YouTube. You have to download actual card files to really see this thing.
Will include some downloadable clips tonight.
Waiting on my Zoom arrival tomorrow.
CT
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Cliff Totten got a reaction from Grumble in DJI Mavic Pro II
There is a good chance this is a line skipping or pixel binning process. It's hard to say for sure though. We know that Sony has created a high tech "full pixel readout" for their fantastic scaling engines but DJI does not buy Sony SOC's. DJI buys Sony sensors and uses Ambarella image processors on Phantom and Mavics.
The original Mavic Pro used a dinosaur Ambarella A9 processor that has the absolute worst temporal noise reduction algorithm. It SEVERELY scrubbed the life out of everything below middle grey it's temporal analysis artifacts caused a "pulse" every 15 frames. Shadows are 90% washed, scrubbed and flattened SEVERELY! (a lot of people blamed 60mbp/s h.264 when it was really that disgusting noise reduction circuit to blame) Total junk chip that dates back to the GoPro 3. The Phantom 4 Pro uses the Ambarella H1 and it's pretty good. The Mavic Air used the Ambarella H1 and doesn't suffer that same noise reduction Hell that the Mavic Pro does and gives you 100mbp/s too.
Today we have the Ambarella H2, H22 and H3 chips which are far more powerful than the H1 now. It's going to be interesting to see what video processor that DJI used for these new Mavics. The Ambarella H3 can do 4k at 120fps and 8K at 30p!
It's very possible that DJI is making these motherboard designs usable for the new Phantom 5 too. This allows them to buy H3 or H2 chips, do all the programming work together and only activate features the need for each model and leave others hidden. This saves lots of programming man hours.
To see this HORRIBLE Ambarella A9 vs Ambarella H1 noise reduction lab analysis comparison, check out my video here. I think it will answer a lot of people's questions about DJI Mavic image quality problems. It's NOT 60mbps vs 100mbp/s like we have all though for years.
https://youtu.be/5WDc9PKCDm0?t=1m30s
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p.s....DJI is using H.265 HEVC but they are only using "main" profile and NOT "high" profile. This means it is only using a fraction of the HEVC tool sets and calculations that are available to the full HEVC/H.265 specification. So,...the "50% gains" over H.264/AVC are reduced even further. This is a "light" or "partial" HEVC profile designed to keep calculations per second lower and easier.
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Cliff Totten got a reaction from EthanAlexander in DJI Mavic Pro II
Just got my II-Pro today. WOAH!,...the image quality is LIGHT YEARS ahead of the old Mavic Pro. Noise processing is fantastic. Shadows are clean and not washed out. No 15 frame temporal NR pulsing. If you add +1 on sharpness, noise reduction backs off even more. This camera looks VERY detailed on both FOV and HQ crop modes.
Even better news....the stability of this aircraft and it's ability to perform flawless yaw movements is like none other that I have flown. I have flown, Mavic Pro, Mavic Air, Phantom 4 Pro, Phantom 4 Pro V2.0 and Inspire 2. This one is THE winner and is absolutely buttery smooooooth. Woah!
It's clear to me now that you can't judge any detail of this camera on YouTube. You have to download actual card files to really see this thing.
Will include some downloadable clips tonight.
Waiting on my Zoom arrival tomorrow.
CT
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Cliff Totten got a reaction from mojo43 in DJI Mavic Pro II
Here 'ya go.
Mavic-II Pro - UHD - 100mbp/s H.264 .mp4 container
Profile is "standard" Sharpness +1 Contrast -3 Saturation 0
Both files are directly off the card and are short. One is Full "FOV" view and teh other is HQ crop view both on the exact same scene. (remember, the color is flat rec709)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1c-k4pnmzrEwuwfnumzATMr4W4o__iI7l?usp=sharing
This is the real thing.....Enjoy!!
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Cliff Totten got a reaction from Trek of Joy in DJI Mavic Pro II
Here 'ya go.
Mavic-II Pro - UHD - 100mbp/s H.264 .mp4 container
Profile is "standard" Sharpness +1 Contrast -3 Saturation 0
Both files are directly off the card and are short. One is Full "FOV" view and teh other is HQ crop view both on the exact same scene. (remember, the color is flat rec709)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1c-k4pnmzrEwuwfnumzATMr4W4o__iI7l?usp=sharing
This is the real thing.....Enjoy!!
CT
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Cliff Totten got a reaction from Kisaha in DJI Mavic Pro II
Here 'ya go.
Mavic-II Pro - UHD - 100mbp/s H.264 .mp4 container
Profile is "standard" Sharpness +1 Contrast -3 Saturation 0
Both files are directly off the card and are short. One is Full "FOV" view and teh other is HQ crop view both on the exact same scene. (remember, the color is flat rec709)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1c-k4pnmzrEwuwfnumzATMr4W4o__iI7l?usp=sharing
This is the real thing.....Enjoy!!
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Cliff Totten got a reaction from wolf33d in DJI Mavic Pro II
Here 'ya go.
Mavic-II Pro - UHD - 100mbp/s H.264 .mp4 container
Profile is "standard" Sharpness +1 Contrast -3 Saturation 0
Both files are directly off the card and are short. One is Full "FOV" view and teh other is HQ crop view both on the exact same scene. (remember, the color is flat rec709)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1c-k4pnmzrEwuwfnumzATMr4W4o__iI7l?usp=sharing
This is the real thing.....Enjoy!!
CT
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Cliff Totten got a reaction from Cinegain in DJI Mavic Pro II
Just got my II-Pro today. WOAH!,...the image quality is LIGHT YEARS ahead of the old Mavic Pro. Noise processing is fantastic. Shadows are clean and not washed out. No 15 frame temporal NR pulsing. If you add +1 on sharpness, noise reduction backs off even more. This camera looks VERY detailed on both FOV and HQ crop modes.
Even better news....the stability of this aircraft and it's ability to perform flawless yaw movements is like none other that I have flown. I have flown, Mavic Pro, Mavic Air, Phantom 4 Pro, Phantom 4 Pro V2.0 and Inspire 2. This one is THE winner and is absolutely buttery smooooooth. Woah!
It's clear to me now that you can't judge any detail of this camera on YouTube. You have to download actual card files to really see this thing.
Will include some downloadable clips tonight.
Waiting on my Zoom arrival tomorrow.
CT
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Cliff Totten got a reaction from webrunner5 in DJI Mavic Pro II
The image processor today has an absolutely equal importance to the overall image quality as the image sensor itself. Many of the improvements we see today are due to processing and NOT image sensors being better and better. The QE (quantum efficiency) of image sensors and photosites has not really improved very much in the last 5-10 years. We have BSI and now fully "stacked" BSI architecture, all that does is make photosites larger on the same surface area. It doesnt change the efficiency of the actual pixel well.
What HAS improved year over year is the image processor. Canon has "Digic". Nikon has "Expeed". Panasonic has "Venus". Sony has "Bionz".....and DJI has "Ambarella".
How they read/scan a sensor, deBayer and apply noise reduction makes all the difference in the world! Take the Sony Exmor-R 1inch-type that DJI uses. DJI can process it with an Ambarella H2 and get "good" quality from it. However that same Sony sensor with "Bionz-X" behind it will produce absolutely amazing results! Sony processing is truly cutting edge. Bionz can read 5K-6K without pixel binning or line skipping and can make +12db noise reduction almost completely transparent with little signs of noise reduction artifacts. We often credit the sensor but it's really the image processor that did the work.
I'm dying to find out which Ambarella chip DJI is using. H1, H2, H22 or H3. I suspect we will see the first teardown video within a month.
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Cliff Totten got a reaction from Kisaha in DJI Mavic Pro II
https://www.youtube.com/user/bbc92314/videos
Look at his newest two videos. In the descriptions, he has the download links to short files right off the card. You can open the files with "MediaInfo" and check out all the DJI metadata.
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Cliff Totten got a reaction from Andrew Reid in DJI Mavic Pro II
Andrew Reid...VERY important!!
Don't forget that DJI says that this 1inch-type "Hasselblab" (made in Sweden by Sony) sensor put's out 14.....[snicker].....stops....[giggle]....of....[heheehe]....dynamic....[HAHAHA!]......range!!....[LMAO!!!!!!!!!]
I'm sorry, I couldn't type that with with a straight face.
OMG...the ONLY customers that would EVER believe that are ones that don't even know what "dynamic range" even is!!
CT ?
P.S....Guys, I'm sorry but "Hasselblad" is nothing more than a Chinese camera "FASHION BRAND". It's just a big joke now.
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Cliff Totten got a reaction from BenEricson in DJI Mavic Pro II
Andrew Reid...VERY important!!
Don't forget that DJI says that this 1inch-type "Hasselblab" (made in Sweden by Sony) sensor put's out 14.....[snicker].....stops....[giggle]....of....[heheehe]....dynamic....[HAHAHA!]......range!!....[LMAO!!!!!!!!!]
I'm sorry, I couldn't type that with with a straight face.
OMG...the ONLY customers that would EVER believe that are ones that don't even know what "dynamic range" even is!!
CT ?
P.S....Guys, I'm sorry but "Hasselblad" is nothing more than a Chinese camera "FASHION BRAND". It's just a big joke now.
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Cliff Totten got a reaction from Kisaha in DJI Mavic Pro II
You might be right about the H2 processor. I'm working with Mavic-II Pro 10bit HEVC files straight off the card. The noise reduction seems to be far superior to the Ambarella H1 files from the Phantom 4 Pro V.20. Shadows are clean but not overly scrubbed to Hell the way the Mavic Pro's Ambarella A9 used to be. These H2 files appear to be a big step up from the H1.
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Cliff Totten got a reaction from EthanAlexander in DJI Mavic Pro II
There is a good chance this is a line skipping or pixel binning process. It's hard to say for sure though. We know that Sony has created a high tech "full pixel readout" for their fantastic scaling engines but DJI does not buy Sony SOC's. DJI buys Sony sensors and uses Ambarella image processors on Phantom and Mavics.
The original Mavic Pro used a dinosaur Ambarella A9 processor that has the absolute worst temporal noise reduction algorithm. It SEVERELY scrubbed the life out of everything below middle grey it's temporal analysis artifacts caused a "pulse" every 15 frames. Shadows are 90% washed, scrubbed and flattened SEVERELY! (a lot of people blamed 60mbp/s h.264 when it was really that disgusting noise reduction circuit to blame) Total junk chip that dates back to the GoPro 3. The Phantom 4 Pro uses the Ambarella H1 and it's pretty good. The Mavic Air used the Ambarella H1 and doesn't suffer that same noise reduction Hell that the Mavic Pro does and gives you 100mbp/s too.
Today we have the Ambarella H2, H22 and H3 chips which are far more powerful than the H1 now. It's going to be interesting to see what video processor that DJI used for these new Mavics. The Ambarella H3 can do 4k at 120fps and 8K at 30p!
It's very possible that DJI is making these motherboard designs usable for the new Phantom 5 too. This allows them to buy H3 or H2 chips, do all the programming work together and only activate features the need for each model and leave others hidden. This saves lots of programming man hours.
To see this HORRIBLE Ambarella A9 vs Ambarella H1 noise reduction lab analysis comparison, check out my video here. I think it will answer a lot of people's questions about DJI Mavic image quality problems. It's NOT 60mbps vs 100mbp/s like we have all though for years.
https://youtu.be/5WDc9PKCDm0?t=1m30s
CT
p.s....DJI is using H.265 HEVC but they are only using "main" profile and NOT "high" profile. This means it is only using a fraction of the HEVC tool sets and calculations that are available to the full HEVC/H.265 specification. So,...the "50% gains" over H.264/AVC are reduced even further. This is a "light" or "partial" HEVC profile designed to keep calculations per second lower and easier.
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Cliff Totten got a reaction from Robert Collins in DJI Mavic Pro II
I ordered both Mavics (Zoom and Pro) but I can tell you one thing;
This DJI claim of 13 stops for the 1/2.3 sensor and 14 stops for the 1inch-type....is a GROSS marketing lie. That is the biggest whopper that DJI had ever told. LOL!!
Not even the A7S-II, FS5, FS7 or GH5-S sensors get "14 stops". (The FS7 gets close)
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Cliff Totten got a reaction from Robert Collins in DJI Mavic Pro II
There is a good chance this is a line skipping or pixel binning process. It's hard to say for sure though. We know that Sony has created a high tech "full pixel readout" for their fantastic scaling engines but DJI does not buy Sony SOC's. DJI buys Sony sensors and uses Ambarella image processors on Phantom and Mavics.
The original Mavic Pro used a dinosaur Ambarella A9 processor that has the absolute worst temporal noise reduction algorithm. It SEVERELY scrubbed the life out of everything below middle grey it's temporal analysis artifacts caused a "pulse" every 15 frames. Shadows are 90% washed, scrubbed and flattened SEVERELY! (a lot of people blamed 60mbp/s h.264 when it was really that disgusting noise reduction circuit to blame) Total junk chip that dates back to the GoPro 3. The Phantom 4 Pro uses the Ambarella H1 and it's pretty good. The Mavic Air used the Ambarella H1 and doesn't suffer that same noise reduction Hell that the Mavic Pro does and gives you 100mbp/s too.
Today we have the Ambarella H2, H22 and H3 chips which are far more powerful than the H1 now. It's going to be interesting to see what video processor that DJI used for these new Mavics. The Ambarella H3 can do 4k at 120fps and 8K at 30p!
It's very possible that DJI is making these motherboard designs usable for the new Phantom 5 too. This allows them to buy H3 or H2 chips, do all the programming work together and only activate features the need for each model and leave others hidden. This saves lots of programming man hours.
To see this HORRIBLE Ambarella A9 vs Ambarella H1 noise reduction lab analysis comparison, check out my video here. I think it will answer a lot of people's questions about DJI Mavic image quality problems. It's NOT 60mbps vs 100mbp/s like we have all though for years.
https://youtu.be/5WDc9PKCDm0?t=1m30s
CT
p.s....DJI is using H.265 HEVC but they are only using "main" profile and NOT "high" profile. This means it is only using a fraction of the HEVC tool sets and calculations that are available to the full HEVC/H.265 specification. So,...the "50% gains" over H.264/AVC are reduced even further. This is a "light" or "partial" HEVC profile designed to keep calculations per second lower and easier.
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Cliff Totten got a reaction from Kisaha in DJI Mavic Pro II
There is a good chance this is a line skipping or pixel binning process. It's hard to say for sure though. We know that Sony has created a high tech "full pixel readout" for their fantastic scaling engines but DJI does not buy Sony SOC's. DJI buys Sony sensors and uses Ambarella image processors on Phantom and Mavics.
The original Mavic Pro used a dinosaur Ambarella A9 processor that has the absolute worst temporal noise reduction algorithm. It SEVERELY scrubbed the life out of everything below middle grey it's temporal analysis artifacts caused a "pulse" every 15 frames. Shadows are 90% washed, scrubbed and flattened SEVERELY! (a lot of people blamed 60mbp/s h.264 when it was really that disgusting noise reduction circuit to blame) Total junk chip that dates back to the GoPro 3. The Phantom 4 Pro uses the Ambarella H1 and it's pretty good. The Mavic Air used the Ambarella H1 and doesn't suffer that same noise reduction Hell that the Mavic Pro does and gives you 100mbp/s too.
Today we have the Ambarella H2, H22 and H3 chips which are far more powerful than the H1 now. It's going to be interesting to see what video processor that DJI used for these new Mavics. The Ambarella H3 can do 4k at 120fps and 8K at 30p!
It's very possible that DJI is making these motherboard designs usable for the new Phantom 5 too. This allows them to buy H3 or H2 chips, do all the programming work together and only activate features the need for each model and leave others hidden. This saves lots of programming man hours.
To see this HORRIBLE Ambarella A9 vs Ambarella H1 noise reduction lab analysis comparison, check out my video here. I think it will answer a lot of people's questions about DJI Mavic image quality problems. It's NOT 60mbps vs 100mbp/s like we have all though for years.
https://youtu.be/5WDc9PKCDm0?t=1m30s
CT
p.s....DJI is using H.265 HEVC but they are only using "main" profile and NOT "high" profile. This means it is only using a fraction of the HEVC tool sets and calculations that are available to the full HEVC/H.265 specification. So,...the "50% gains" over H.264/AVC are reduced even further. This is a "light" or "partial" HEVC profile designed to keep calculations per second lower and easier.
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Cliff Totten got a reaction from IronFilm in Imaging Resource takes a look inside Nikon's sensor design studios, solves Sony misconceptions
Lets be honest....companies dont give a damn about Sony's fabrication machines. There are a dozen major facilities that can do that for everybody. Why do companies choose Sony so often? SONY PATENTS! The only way to gain access to Sony's sensor architecture patents....is to BUY access to them and have "Sony" fab them into your sensor! If ANY other plant tries to infringe on Sony patents and "clone" Sony technology, you could literally have your camera pulled from store shelves and be forced to pay damages back to Sony. Its too risky....its much better to give Sony your specs and leagally buy the rest of Sony technology that way. This sensor fab thing is just a big, massive pattent war. And Sony protects their pattents like a pack of wolves protects their kill. Any idea that Sony just happens to be the plant we chose out of thin air by chance to fab OUR sensor is hilarious. Sony sensor architecture PATTENTS are what make their sensors amazing....not their fab equipment. If you take that away then you can go to Aptina or Dalsa or CMOSIS or Samsung our anybody else....thats why companies like Nikon and Panasonic and Samsung dont for their best cameras.
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Cliff Totten got a reaction from Eric Calabros in Imaging Resource takes a look inside Nikon's sensor design studios, solves Sony misconceptions
Lets be honest....companies dont give a damn about Sony's fabrication machines. There are a dozen major facilities that can do that for everybody. Why do companies choose Sony so often? SONY PATENTS! The only way to gain access to Sony's sensor architecture patents....is to BUY access to them and have "Sony" fab them into your sensor! If ANY other plant tries to infringe on Sony patents and "clone" Sony technology, you could literally have your camera pulled from store shelves and be forced to pay damages back to Sony. Its too risky....its much better to give Sony your specs and leagally buy the rest of Sony technology that way. This sensor fab thing is just a big, massive pattent war. And Sony protects their pattents like a pack of wolves protects their kill. Any idea that Sony just happens to be the plant we chose out of thin air by chance to fab OUR sensor is hilarious. Sony sensor architecture PATTENTS are what make their sensors amazing....not their fab equipment. If you take that away then you can go to Aptina or Dalsa or CMOSIS or Samsung our anybody else....thats why companies like Nikon and Panasonic and Samsung dont for their best cameras.
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Cliff Totten got a reaction from Jimbo in Fast apertures on the GH5 = Full frame
Admittedly,...this is going to sound really stupid. However, I think the word "Micro" was a bad choice for the title of this system. People are OK with a 4:3 aspect ratio but nobody wants a "Micro" sensor. All it does is remind people every time it is said that it's a "small" sensor.
Imagine if it was named the "Super 4/3" system"? "Super" 4/3 would have diverted attention away from its size and "psychologically" is a much better marketing name.
Yeah....I know this sounds stupid but sadly, I still think this idea holds true.
Super 4/3....much better "ring" to that name.
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Cliff Totten got a reaction from anonim in Fast apertures on the GH5 = Full frame
Admittedly,...this is going to sound really stupid. However, I think the word "Micro" was a bad choice for the title of this system. People are OK with a 4:3 aspect ratio but nobody wants a "Micro" sensor. All it does is remind people every time it is said that it's a "small" sensor.
Imagine if it was named the "Super 4/3" system"? "Super" 4/3 would have diverted attention away from its size and "psychologically" is a much better marketing name.
Yeah....I know this sounds stupid but sadly, I still think this idea holds true.
Super 4/3....much better "ring" to that name.
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Cliff Totten got a reaction from EthanAlexander in Fast apertures on the GH5 = Full frame
Admittedly,...this is going to sound really stupid. However, I think the word "Micro" was a bad choice for the title of this system. People are OK with a 4:3 aspect ratio but nobody wants a "Micro" sensor. All it does is remind people every time it is said that it's a "small" sensor.
Imagine if it was named the "Super 4/3" system"? "Super" 4/3 would have diverted attention away from its size and "psychologically" is a much better marketing name.
Yeah....I know this sounds stupid but sadly, I still think this idea holds true.
Super 4/3....much better "ring" to that name.