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12 hours ago, hmcindie said:
The highlight roll-off is pretty good (I tend to use Adobe raw for it). With Resolve you may need to fiddle with some settings to prevent oversaturated and clipped highlights. I tend to fiddle with the roll-offs myself (even with the a6300) in Colorista or Resolve (bringing the highlights down with a nice curve and desaturating them).
Nice! I use Resolve since I was paying Adobe PP monthly and only used it once or twice a month.
9 hours ago, SigurdW said:@raf702 I also made the switch from an a7s (which I shot with in both HD and 4K) to the 5D3, and have to say I have never looked back. To me, the DR in the 5D3 is so much more "true", in terms that you actually have control over it in post. Unlike the thin 8-bit "14 stops", that has to be at 3200 ASA, perfectly exposed and with heavy amount of filtration in order to be worked with properly in post. By the time I had got a reasonably life-like image in the grade, was also the point when I had to deal with the aftermath (color casts, skin tones, noise, etc) and the limitations of the Sony. I get ten times more excited looking back at what I shot with the 5D3, than any other prosumer Sony cam I have used
Awesome info
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6 hours ago, hmcindie said:
Overall image / colors are excellent. There's some banding at the bottom shadows and it can't keep highlights the way slog2 can but everything else rocks compared to the a6300. I'm not that into 4k yet so I haven't tried the 3.5k modes. More important for me is to figure out how to move the camera cinematically now.
Great info, how’s the highlight roll off? And do highlights blow out easily? Thanks
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1DC is a given, at a good price definitely worth getting hands down. And get a B-cam for slow-mo, like the 5D3 raw 60fps looks promising.
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1 hour ago, hmcindie said:
For me it's great. Someone else might be horrified. It's hard to say, people have different needs.
How are you liking the overall image and colors? And have you tried the 3.5k yet? In comparison to when you shot 4k with the a6300.
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21 hours ago, PannySVHS said:
Maybe sell the A6300 as long as they sell. Then get a Panasonic G85 as your A all purpose cam for a great mix of convinience, usuability and nice quality. Colors are nice, codec is great, image is nice. Then with the left money start to save up for a 5D3 as you ultimate color sensation and serious 2K RAW cinema camera.
I´d sell the Sony and get a used Lumix 85 plus a little profit. Do you have Sony footage you would like to show? I don´t mean that as a proof. I am just interested since I am always exited to see what people can do with these 8bit DSLMs. Kidzevil, member of this forum, has provided some awesome examples with the A6500. Though to me I think his results with the G85 are even nicer and more consistent regarding color quality. And easier to achieve.
I appreciate the info, but not a fan of Panny. I had a GH4 in the past. I’m not impressed with it, and I don’t like the sensor size, colors, and low light.
6 hours ago, hmcindie said:I just sold my a6300.
5dIII raw is just a different world. Storage space? Just buy some harddrives.
How has that experience been for you, moving from an A6300 to the 5D3 raw?
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4 hours ago, Deadcode said:
You can convert raw to any log space you want. If you are using EosHD C-log LUT's you can use Canon C-Log conversion in Davinci resolve.
5D3 is a 1080p 25p camera if we are talking about reliability and stability. Dynamic range is good, but it's 11,7 EV and you can get about 13 stops from A6300.
Yes the 5D3 has the best cinematic image for the price range, but you have to deal with huge store space consuming and longer post processing times
Im using 5D2 and A6300 right now. I will sell de 5D very soon. I think everyone should try 5D ML RAW once. You can see if it fits to your needs.
Now, after a year of tweaking i can get very nice colour from the a6300 so the 5D no longer have the advantage..
So i think if you can do it, buy a 5D3 for a few month but don't sell your a6300.
I appreciate the info, I use to have a 5D2 with ML Raw at least 4 years ago. Obviously a lot has significantly change since then, and much better now especially on the 5D3.
I've been watching lots of 3.5k videos of the 5d3 raw, and it certainly looks more cinematic then the A6300. Maybe I could just get a 5D3 as secondary to the A6300.
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I was wondering if you can use the EOSHD C-Log with ML raw? I know it doesn't really matter since your shooting in raw.
Also, what do you guys think about switching from the A6300 to the 5D3 ML Raw. I'm liking the image and color a lot from the 5D3 @3.5k versus the A6300 @4k, and the 60fps looks way better than the A6300. Reliability, stability, dynamic range on the 5D3 Raw is my main concern.
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-4K-60p
-10-bit or at least 8-bit 422
-improved colors
-improved IBIS
The first two are most important to me at least.
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11 hours ago, Ollywood88 said:
Its not too bad, it is just a little soft. great for dream like sequences but intercut with the 4k will look soft.
Yeah any other dslr, I use the c500 as our A Cam for the 2k 60fps.
I see, what other B-cam options would you suggest?
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5D3 ML raw, could be another good option for 60p ??
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13 hours ago, cojocaru27 said:
so, again, no A7s mark3
wonder how much do we have to wait for it to come.
A7r mark3 is here and looks promising but hardly an a7s 2 replacement for video.
what do you say?
It's only a promising upgrade for photography, but not impressive for the video side of things. This will certainly lead people towards the upcoming the A7SIII if it delivers. IF not, then might have to look elsewhere. We will have to wait and see.
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Which is a good B-camera for slow-mo 60fps. That's my concern, since the 1DC has poor 1080-60p.
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10 hours ago, IronFilm said:
And Tokina! That 11-20mm f2.8 (or the original 11-16mm f2.8 , which is the one I have) is part of the "Holy Trinity of Lenses" for APS-C
Think also about what would be your B camera, I'd rather have a D850 with a D7500 back up than a 1D C and any of Canon's DSLRs in that same price bracket.
I will definitely look into that!
5 hours ago, Mattias Burling said:I sold my 1DC for a 5Dmkiii. So I too would go for the D850 with a D500/7500/5500/bmpcc backup.
The Tokina is sweet. I used to have the 11-16 back in the t3i days.
Tomorrow Im finally getting the 18-35/1.8I appreciate the suggestion!
9 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:The 1080/60p is superior yes.
Let's be clear though, the 1D C is an amazing camera, the image is similar to the D850 but the codec is a bit more beefy at 4:2:2 500Mbit... The issue is it's crap to edit and massive file sizes, whereas the D850 fixes that with the sensible 4K codec it has. 1D C has 'real' LOG but D850 flat profile is very similar to Canon LOG in my opinion. The 1D C is 1.3x crop 4K where D850 is full frame, no crop. I prefer the lens mount of the 1D C - more adapts and Canon glass takes some beating even by Nikon.
The main reason I would say the D850 is superior though is because of the way it marries a very similar level of 4K quality with better features and better 1080p - it's more complete - and as a stills camera, 46MP is not to be sniffed at, even if it lacks the burst speeds of the 1D C, that resolution in itself is quite amazing and the AF is just as good as the top of the line pro Canon.
1D C only does Super 35mm mode in 1080p, whereas D850 does Super 35mm in 4K so good to have that second crop factor.
If you're looking at either the D850 or 1D C your main priorities are probably:
- Better stills than a Sony (OVF, super fast AF, handling, battery life)
- 4K and 1080 image quality as good as it can possibly be without going to a more video orientated platform, like C300 Mark II, GH5, FS5, etc.
- Enough basic video features to make it painless (articulated screen and small file sizes - neither is found on 1D C)
The only thing I would say that is Canon's IS lenses seem to be superior to Nikon VR for video. The D850 is not the perfect handheld camera the GH5 is. Better on a tripod.
Awesome! Plus I'm trying to stay as compact, the GH5 not a fan. I moved away from M43 cameras, and I have a A6300 now but want something more complete. Better image and slow-mo, etc. The D850 seems to check all the boxes for me.
What's the dynamic range like in comparison to the 1DC with log and flat profile of the D850?
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@Andrew Reid
Would you suggest someone getting the D850 over the 1DC? Since you claim it's nearly identical in 4K image quality. And I assume 1080-60p on the D850 is way superior and superb than the 1DC?
This could be a deciding factor for me, wether to get a D850 or keep looking for a second hand 1DC.
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I'm curious if anyone has the iPhone 8+, I might upgrade to it and get the Moondog Labs anamorph adapter when it comes out.
Now that it supports 4K-24p and 60p, and I think OIS, it definitely opens up filming options. Along with using Filmic Pro.
What do you guys think?
Ralf
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I'd say RedStan, although I just use lens filters to attach my Isco 36, and it's just as secure. But as another said the Red/Raf/Rap are good options
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On 4/20/2017 at 6:02 AM, rokkimort said:
Are you coming from usability point of view? Coz people here state that kowa c35 with hardcore is even sharper then the iscorama. And can focus closer.
Usability, compact size. But I'm also just bias towards Iscoramas. Although wish it could be improved like closer focus distance. Other than, it's sharp enough for my liking. How much sharpness is too much for an anamorphic lens.
Might be off topic but just saw single focus solution adapter on eBay. Curious if anyone has any feedback on this. Looks pretty interesting.
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Iscorama hands down, and thank God I have an Iscorama Pre-36 =)
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I'll be paying close attention to this, and now starting to think if it's now worth considering getting this, versus an A7RII. Which is what I've been contemplating on for sometime now.
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With the option to shoot in 4:3 mode, I would take advantage of it at all times. As you don't lose any resolution when shooting anamorphic, and less post work. But anytime you shoot 16:9, you WILL have to crop in and WILL lose horizontal resolution. Unless you want to specifically retain the super wide 3.55 aspect ratio when shooting in 16:9 mode with a 2x. That's just my opinion, enjoy shooting anamorphic!
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With the GH5 or any 4:3 capable modes. Shooting 2x is your best option to get 2.67 aspect ratio when desqueezed in post.
Any small sized 2x with Hardcore DNA is a great setup. Or if your keen to finding a 1.5x, then shoot in 16x9 mode with any camera. But you will be waiting a long time and spending $$$$ for a 1.5x single focus.
Thank God I was able to find a Iscorama pre-36 on eBay just over a year ago. Best investment ever for an anamorphic lens solution imo.
The Kowa 16H, 8z, etc. are the ones to look out for.