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What does chocolate taste like? Sweet? What does sweet taste like?(not trying to sound rude) You know it when you taste it.

I would say that filmic, which is a term I use a lot when talking about video is:

 

Has A Surreal feel to it, dream like, definitely not in the present, different from real life

Unlike the immediate presence of being "live" whether being live in person or on something like television or video.

Plus the other qualities mentioned above DR, sometimes shallow DOF etc.

I would highly recommend Andrew's 50D Raw guide to anyone who owns or is thinking about owning a 50D for raw video. It answers a lot of questions and should get you up and running.
The ML site: magiclantern.fm) additionally will continue and increase the ML Raw user's knowledge base.

Albeit that commercially created raw cameras are possibly more user friendly; there is still a learning curve for almost any camera. There is also a learning curve for shooting and post for raw video.

Andrew's EOSHD 50D Raw Shooter's Guide and his subsequent posts; have been pretty helpful to me.
Not just for the 50D or the 7D but in helping me to understand the tool(s) that we have here and the potential use and actual practical uses for a relatively small entry fee (the cost of the camera & CF cards).
@Maxotics you see the potential in it and so does the guy that brought the 50D to the US Open.

" :) I laugh about the people complaining about all the storage/time RAW takes.  When I was in my 20s and 30s one had to wait 3 -7 days for their Super-8 to come back.  And 16mm?  $100+ a small reel (stock/dev) back then.  

That RAW is possible at all, for under $1,000, is nothing short of miraculous (and I use that word sparingly).

That you can pay $100 for a CF card that shoots the same amount of 16mm AND is re-usable!    ;)

 

Seeing that you have a young kid in your photo and no Bentley in the background I say go with the 50D or 7D if you want 1080p, or go with any other ML Canon for 720p.  Here are my stupid reasons:"

 

 

"2. The only difference I can tell, between BMCC, and Canon is that BMCC converts to ProRes in the camera and allows you to capture audio.  With the Canon, if you want ProRes, you have to convert first.  No big deal.

3. The Canon even has a plus in that you can get TIFFs and now you're open to every kind of photo processing software.  Lots more creativity!  

4. Audio.  If you have the time to shoot RAW you have the time to sync external audio.  "

 

 

Absolutely agree and have experienced similar! One could say that was then and this is now but... Now you have a; similar to 16MM film- raw video output for under$1000.00 . :lol:

You know it's funny how we look at things, here is a picture (taken from the ML website) from Opening Day at the US OPEN yesterday.

And lo and behold is the Canon EOS 50D -all geared up, utilized to take some video from the sidelines.

 

I think that this camera is in the same category as the BMPCC. It's raw image is very filmic. Very 16mm like and in many ways unique. At least very good for internet type productions that you can devote time to.