jase

this camera continues to amaze me. Please panasonic, give me the GX90 with mic-in and 4k teleconverter!

1 minute ago, BTM_Pix said:

Could you talk me through this behaviour with the AF-ON button Jase and whether you know if it is the same on the 45 1.8?

I have the 45 1.8 and when I'm testing it with my hardware controller in MF mode I can focus manually by wire with the joystick and activate an instant AF by pushing the stick in and I can also activate a joystick steerable mode where I can move the focus point around the screen and then press the stick in to activate an instant AF on that point.

I'm curious to know if this would solve the issue for you if it did the same with the 17 as I don't have one of those to test with?

It is true for all Oly lenses that have the MF declutch mode. The 45 1.8 doesnt have this mode, so the behaviour on this lens might be / is different.

Like i said, when you have such an oly lens with the focus ring pulled back, the AF-ON button is disabled (I set the AE/AF lock button to this mode). Once you push the focus ring back to normal mode, the AF-ON works as expected (even if you set your camera (not by using the lens!) to MF mode.

20 hours ago, Cinegain said:

Anyone here familiar with the Olympus 17mm f/1.8? Kinda curious about it, since it has that 17mm focal length, MF clutch especially and compact size. Didn't really consider it before, but now we have sensor stabilization on the Panasonics, it might be quite dope. Aside from the build quality and the sub-f/1.8 light gathering capability, think it might be a cheapo Nokton 17.5mm for us that like the focal length and MF.

I shot this video using the oly 17:

The lens is really nice, but I like the Pana 15 way more. What is really a pitty about the Oly lenses is that once they are in MF mode, the AF-ON button is disabled. When not setting the lens to MF mode, the focus ring is not linear anymore - very annoying for focus pulls.

The pana 15 fixes that since the focus ring is linear and even better than the one of the oly, again even when it is in its MF mode. And since we have a 1.1x crop in 4k anyway (at least for the GX80), the pana 15 actually becomes a 17

I also have this manual and found a guy on dpreview who did this mod to the LX100. I really would like to do it and i can solder, but the mic out will always be a weak point and it is very questionable how good the quality will be without a dedicated mic-in.

1 minute ago, jonpais said:

To be honest, I do notice it, and you should, too. The images stutter. Not that I don't like your videos.

Would you mind pointing me to a specific sequence? I just want to see whether I will notice it once someone is putting my nose onto it.

1 hour ago, jonpais said:

 Auto shutter.

so what? I am using auto-shutter all the time. Do you notice it in my videos? Well, I dont - which is good for me, I am apparently easier to please

Thanks jon. I think I will try to do some tests on my own to see whether I can see the difference in my work. 

On a sidenode: god, whenever I watch your videos I feel the urge to buy the Summilux 12mm at an instant. As soon as we get the successor of the G85 that will enable the Teleconverter option also in 4k, this will be it for me.

17 hours ago, Fredrik Lyhne said:

Jon didn’t mention the GH5 and neither did I in my reply to him. I was talking in general with my experience with Panasonic cameras. And as many others have stated before me they are getting better color when underexposing a little bit. Not better DR, not better noise performance but color. This is my experience as well but I have not done any extensive testing.

I am by no means experienced in the department of grading, but my last 3-4 videos or so i underexposed with -2/3 and I love the results I am getting. However I also have to conclude that my GX80 is sometimes overexposing, so turning it down by -2/3 makes the zebras go disappear in the highlights area.

Next gig, next clip:

This time OOC.

nothing special, but i really like the cinelike d hack!

20 hours ago, tonysss said:

 

What's your favorite setting ?

CinelikeD with 0/-5/-5/-5.

I will have some material ready this weekend. Til now I am quite pleased with CinelikeD on my GX80!

5 minutes ago, Phil A said:

Made up my mind on lenses 

lovely! Voigtländer are absolute lensporn...

Since I am very bad at guessing focal length and fstop, what do you guys think what was used here:

2 hours ago, Fredrik Lyhne said:

If someone want to have a look at v-log skin tones I also made these videos. The grade is a little bit different between the and I guess somewhere in the middle would be better, but I'm very pleased with how easy it is to get good skin tones in v-log. At least I'm satisfied with the result and it can only get better. Turn down the sound if you don't want to listen to a strange Nordic language  

Nice skintones indeed! Compared to your videos taken with the GX80 in the same yoga studio setting, I dont see that much more dynamic range. How is your experience to date with the GH5 compared to GX80 / G85? What do GX80 owners like I miss?

1 minute ago, Fritz Pierre said:

Years ago there was a review by a still photographer with the GF1 shooting stills on the 20mm f1.7 Panny...its worth finding online...his shots are stunning and I think that like Peru, you will find Nepal a place of such beauty and production value as a filmmaker...exciting times ahead for you!

This one: https://craigmod.com/journal/gf1-fieldtest/ ?

If yes: it is indeed a great read and stunning images!

23 minutes ago, Fritz Pierre said:

having seen your film on Peru though, these were made for you!

Definitely! I need that lens before I will do my next trip to Nepal, so lets see how fast prices will go down.

9 hours ago, Fritz Pierre said:

If the 8-18 looks anything like the 12-60 you will not be disappointed...no mistaking that it's made by Leica both image and build quality wise...how light it is for a metal lens (at least on the 12-60) will surprise...not sure whether that's possible in such a wide zoom...but the idea of a zoom of this optical quality at 8mm on the wide end for 1100 is enticing...as you already shoot M4/3 this is an amazing price...a company called Laowa makes a 7.5 f2.0 prime....not a bad looking lens, but still 500...for another 600 this lens gives you a nice range and in Leica glass!

Edit: specs say 8-18 is 315 grams....the 12-60 is 320 grams

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Exactly my line of thinking. However I dont buy lenses new, so I will wait until the price drops a bit more and get it used. On the other hand the laowa lens is also quite interesting, since it is also small and lightweight. Will see. 

3 hours ago, jonpais said:

Another possibility is to wait for the Leica 8-18mm, which Fritz is considering, and which has both weather sealing and a filter thread.

I have to admit that at first I was a bit disappointed that it has no constant f2.8 aperture. But now on a second sight, I think this could be really a lens for me - weather sealing, smaller and lighter than the olympus 7-14, leica touch (hopefully) and a filter thread. Bonus: longer end without sacrificing too much on the shorter end. If the manual focusing is the same as with other newer PL lenses like the 15 f1.7 then what is not to love about this lens?

19 minutes ago, sanveer said:

A lot of people think its a Point-and-Shoot. So, it goes to a lot of places where ILCs aren't allowed. I have even shot it at places where one needs permissions (guerilla shooting), by using the Panasonic Lumix App. I am wondering whether the 20mm f/1.7 would be a nice addition (though I am very happy with the 25mm f/1.7, right now, along with the tiny almost pancake kind of zoom, the 12-32mm). 

I doubt anything that even remotely resembles a DSLR would be allowed in most of these places. 

Exactly! GX80 is very stealthy  If only this G800(?) or whatever its name is had IBIS..

48 minutes ago, John Matthews said:

I'm still quite happy with my GX80 and I won't be selling it anytime soon. It's taking great photos and videos. I could mention some negatives, but the fact of the matter is that this camera is good enough. I couple it with the ZOOM H1 positioned close to the subject and I've found it an impressive match for many systems... still state of the art in 2017.

Agreed, no way i will ditch the GX80 any time soon, it delivers incredible quality in such a small package! There is no alternative once one combines ibis, size and picture quality. But maybe a G85 would be a nice addition to my collection

Just now, Fredrik Lyhne said:

Very nice video @jase! I just bought a G85 as they were on sale for almost 40% here in Norway. Keep looking and maybe there will be similar deals in Germany. My first impressions is that ergonomics is much better than the GX85 (obviously). Compared to my GH5 it's very small and light, and even though Panasonic is releasing new models I very much doubt any of them will have 4K 60P if that's something you want. The GH5 is big for a reason. The size and weight difference to the GH4 and G85 is much more noticeable than in pictures. 

Indeed, the 4k60p would be just a nice to have. In the past I always only used the 50p modes because I believed that i needed the slowmo. Now that I made the switch to 4k I found myself not having any real need for slowmo. I will keep an open eye for the G85!

7 hours ago, mercer said:

Well it worked. Are you thinking of getting a new camera? I'm sure you could get more out of Raw than I do. 

Well, I am lurking arround the 4k RAW topic all the time, but honestly, I dont think I would benefit from it that much. I got an insanely small package with the GX80, I like the endresults so why should I do a switch other than GAS? For 2017, I am interested in what Panasonic has in its sleeve for us during autumn/winter. For my next hike, I will need something more weatherproof, so either we have some successors or I might buy the G85 when it gets really cheap for its mic-In, weatherseeling and flipout screen. But time will tell.

11 minutes ago, mercer said:

Damn, that looks awesome!!! This may be my favorite of your videos Jase. Great shots + great edit + greay color + great music = cool as shit video!!! Are you still using Standard with everything dialed down and FilmConvert to color?

Thanks man, means a lot from a RAW guy ?

Standard with everything -5 except contrast, which i always brought back in post anyway. And yes, still filmconvert with the GH4 profile. With the Summilux those skintones you get OOTB, only needed to correct one single shot regarding skintones.

A rather quick edit of a short sailing trip in The Hague:

Again I am really satisfied with the quality. The Summilux really sings. Stupidly enough I did not bring my field recorder so I had to rely on the built-in mic of the GX80, which I only could use in the beginning. The lack of a mic is is really annoying me, my next camera really needs to have have a mic in. I even considered checking out the A6500 but gave it up quickly after hearing about the dimmed screen issues.

About focusing: is it really true that on the a6500 you either get MF or AF-C only? Nothing like AF-S or MF with AF-ON? Is there any way to MF and use AF for a quick focus while you are shooting?