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    andrgl reacted to Electroholic Anonymous in My Canon EOS R5 recording 8K video 50 minutes straight   
    After a 6 minute run just now, it gives me 15 minutes again. As I am writing this the R5 is recording a 15 minute run. Will report back in 15 minutes 😉 No, I have two 1TB Integral Ultima CFE cards, and one Sandisk 512GB card. The Integrals run colder by the way. None of those 3 gave me an error or other disappointing behaviour, ever, for over a month now with the R5, a month full of abuse and power interruptions, hats off to those cards, the R5, and you and the others coming up with the FAT32 idea. Thanks a lot!
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    andrgl reacted to Electroholic Anonymous in My Canon EOS R5 recording 8K video 50 minutes straight   
    IT WORKS!!!
    This is with a Sony UHS-II card, R5 recording 8K 23.98p IPB in roughly 680Mbps. I will try some other modes next, but I trust this will work in any mode available on SD. Pity that RAW does not work with this neatest of tricks. You guys are geniuses!
     

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    andrgl reacted to Davos in My Canon EOS R5 recording 8K video 50 minutes straight   
    Customers like Karolina were deliberatly misled by Canon's marketing. It was sold front and centre as a 'professional' hybrid camera and focused very heavily on the video capabilities.

    Yet if you listen to the fan boys it's like none of this ever happened and canon can 'do what they like'. It's pretty disgusting given people have shelled out thousands of their hard earned in good faith. If you dare to point any of this out, as Andrew and others have done, you come under sustained personal attack! The fan boys have a lot to answer for.
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    andrgl reacted to karoliina in My Canon EOS R5 recording 8K video 50 minutes straight   
    I paid 4900 euros for the camera and expected to be able to shoot at least 4K HQ with it as much as I can when placed preorder. I aknowledged that there could be problems with 8K video, but I was not worried because 4K HQ 10 bit 422 would be fine with me most of the time. And it turns out the cripple timer cripples also the 4K HQ. 

    I think apologist attitude "oh yeah Canon has all the right" smells deeply rotten. I don't care what Canon thinks, they have ruined the video capabilities of the expensive camera I purchased and traded my 1DX mark II (which did not overheat even in 4K 60p) to. I expected the new camera to be better than the 1DX mark II in video. And it came with Jesus-specs that would show Sony who is the king of video. Then it turns out, after already paying the camera (had to pay in advance to actually get it), that it has timer that ruins all usable video modes. The low quality pixel binned 4K mode most definitely is not what I traded my 1DX mark II for. Because 1DX mark II was able to do high quality 4K all day long, no C-log, but it had EOSHD-C-log installed which was fine. With this timer, my choices are worse image quality than the camera it replaces or live with the timer I never expected to even exist. Canon has betrayed me as a customer. I am not so rich that it would be indifferent to me as a customer if I get fooled by a manufacturer that sells intentional lemons instead of products they marketed.
    Canon has no excuses to treat its customers like this. It is despicable. I have no reason to be kind and with apologist attitude towards Canon and than them for ruining my video shooting experience in contrast to the previous camera I had from them. I did not buy this camera for its 4K low quality mode. I could have bought Sony A7RIV instead, if I wanted a camera with pixel binned low quality video, high dynamic range sensor and high megapixel count for still photography. I bought the Canon instead because I expected it to perform better as a hybrid camera than the Sony A7RIV as it had all the things I had been wishing for: 10 bit video, raw video, full sensor readout, Canon DPAF, eye-AF etc. in the same package. It looked like the perfect camera for me. However, Canon completely ruined the video shooting abilities of this camera to category "not suitable for shooting video", unlike marketed, and unlike what I paid for. 
    I will use any hack available to shoot video with my R5. And if Canon "fixes it" in the next firmware releases by removing these hack capabilities, I will never upgrade the firmware.
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    andrgl reacted to Electroholic Anonymous in My Canon EOS R5 recording 8K video 50 minutes straight   
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    As is wrote above, despite 60W of Peltier cooling power supplied, with a copper heatspreader covering the whole back of the R5 behind the LCD screen and cooling it to -5 degrees Celsius, risking internal condensation, it has ZERO impact on the time I can record in 8K RAW, with my R5 with firmware v 1.0.0.
    I was willing to walk around with this ugly contraption if it would give me longer recording times. I need a full NP-F970 battery per hour for the maximum cooling. I doubt Tilta will apply that much cooling power.
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    andrgl reacted to Django in My Canon EOS R5 recording 8K video 50 minutes straight   
    How about that deep freeze test where the R5 was able to shoot like an hour before overheating warning? Looks like the timer gets triggered after a certain temp threshold and the battery door hack defeats the artificial recovery time.
    Canon will never apologize just like Apple never did during their numerous scandals like Antennagate where Jobs responded:
     
     "Just avoid holding it that way" - led to widespread mockery, and the phrase "you're holding it wrong" still sticks around whenever an Apple product has a fault. Eventually, Steve Jobs held a press conference at Cupertino and announced free bumper cases for all users, saying: "We're not perfect… but we want all our users to be happy."
    Same with bendgate: Apple responded to Bendgate, stating that it had received only nine complaints of bent devices and that the damage occurring due to regular use was "extremely rare". Apple offered to replace phones that were bent.
    At best Canon will issue a firmware “fix” claiming “overheat management optimization” or something. 
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    andrgl reacted to Andrew Reid in My Canon EOS R5 recording 8K video 50 minutes straight   
    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
    A CLASSIC.
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    andrgl reacted to Andrew Reid in My Canon EOS R5 recording 8K video 50 minutes straight   
    Daniel I agree 100%
    We are customers at the end of the day and deserve some respect and to be levelled with in an honest way!!
    It really drives me up the wall, the fact that I can break all this news on the blog and in Canon's eyes - I AM the villain right?!!? ME! The guy who said Canon had finally turned a corner, rushed out to give them my hard earned ÂŁ4200 only to find all my worst suspicious were true.
    The fact they have not apologised to me or to customers like you after all this investment is a DISGRACE.
    If a class action happens I would support it 1000%
    I cannot believe the depth of stupidity at the senior management level in Japan.
    Why do they feel it is ok to release a product with an "official overheating problem" let alone an artificial one?!
    It would be industrial level sabotage if it wasn't so self inflicted.
    I cannot believe how slow they have been to respond with an apology and promise to investigate and fix the firmware.
    They are actually standing their ground on this?? WHY?
    Out of fear they might lose a few sales in a niche business division that deals with expensive camcorders?
    The EOS business is surely bigger and should be pulling the strings, not the other way round.
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    andrgl reacted to Tim Sewell in My Canon EOS R5 recording 8K video 50 minutes straight   
    I'm sorry, but this just isn't the case. People buy C-line video cameras for a plethora of reasons and for many use cases there's no way they would swap out a full-control, fully specified professional cine camera for a hybrid body. The form factor of a hybrid just wouldn't cut it in a wide range of professional working situations. Codecs, resolution and so on are important, but they really are only one part of the considerations that apply to choosing a working tool.
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    andrgl reacted to Andrew Reid in My Canon EOS R5 recording 8K video 50 minutes straight   
    Just in case anyone missed it here is the hack methodology in full:
    https://www.eoshd.com/news/this-is-my-canon-eos-r5-recording-8k-video-50-minutes-straight-until-empty-battery-video-evidence/
    Here’s what I did during the 50 minutes 8K test:
    00:00 – Power on the EOS R5 normal from cold 01:00 – Remove battery card door, camera powers down but power switch remains in “on” position 01:30 – Insert small screw in the battery door sensor as pictured below. Camera turns back on. 02:00 – Set video mode to DCI 8K resolution (IPB codec) to SD card. 02:10 – Hit record 17:00 – Roll to approximately 17 minutes (“overheat” warning icon will be flashing) 17:05 – At this point pull battery during recording 17:15 – With battery disconnected remove SD card and put freshly formatted SD card in the slot instead 17:20 – Push battery back in and power will return, overheat warning is gone and timer is reset 35:00 – Record for another 17 minutes! 50:00 – End of test I could go until the battery died, basically.
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    andrgl reacted to Andrew Reid in My Canon EOS R5 recording 8K video 50 minutes straight   
    Exactly - if nothing to hide, come out and say it... I honestly think they fear the legal consequences of this. And are uncertain on how to proceed policy wise. Canon are a big committee and do not move quickly on important decisions.
    It seems obvious to us -
    Just apologise and fix the problem, give us the impressive camera hardware as the engineers intended it and not crippled version with a firmware timer.
    For $4000 we are within our rights to request it.
    But to Canon it is probably all out political nuclear war and all sorts of manager arguments, in multiple departments and even multiple regions.
    I am sure some in the company are absolutely ashamed of what has happened.
    But they are not going to go above the level of the CEO and come out and say it publicly. Hierarchies are VERY strict in corporations, especially Japanese ones.
    We should give them yet more time to respond.
    It may be that Canon choose to ignore all their customers for 1-2 months completely and then just spring a firmware update on us.
    Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if we never get an apology or really any honest answers.
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    andrgl reacted to Daai in My Canon EOS R5 recording 8K video 50 minutes straight   
    keep pressure them. you doing good work ! i mean if they got nothing to hide. why not just answer us? even when lousy excuse.  this was canon "debute" camera and all this shit? never seen so many creative way to use the camera as this one. If so then canon should made a manual for "other way to make it work".
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    andrgl reacted to Andrew Reid in My Canon EOS R5 recording 8K video 50 minutes straight   
    Like I said in the article, I have approached everybody I know who works for Canon, and one of them is Michael Bravin, ex-ARRI, so we are not talking about the regional chinless wonder junior sales reps but people who have clout, who could make a difference and who I assume to be ethical people willing to help.
    Let me tell you...
    I have got nowhere fast.
    The same with Canon UK.
    I believe they are probably just sticking their heads in the sand or probably don't even understand the depth of customer anger there is about this.
    Or maybe we are a niche who don't make them the extra billions they are targeting so fuck us.
    Just one of the reason's we've a right to be very angry.
    Everybody who has spent $4000 on this camera (or even more in many regions) has a right to an honest explanation, and an apology, and most certainly a fix.
    I do agree that maybe a less harder, pro-corporate position would make for a more harmonious relationship between EOSHD and Canon.
    But I cannot sacrifice my principals - The right strategy at the moment is to simply carry on speaking the truth to bullshit, with factual evidence to back it up and as many deep technical discoveries as possible ideally with the help of Magic Lantern. We must pool our knowledge.
    Then Japan can do what the like to be quite honest.
    The ball has been in their court since day one and will continue to be.
    If we don't like what they have done, the onus is on us to stop being nice little easily-led consumers and to spend our money elsewhere! Perhaps even in the high end smartphone camera market instead.
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    andrgl reacted to Davos in Canon EOS R5 so-called overheat timer defeated by a single screw in battery door   
    Canon engineers reading this thread.

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    andrgl reacted to John Matthews in Canon EOS R5 so-called overheat timer defeated by a single screw in battery door   
    I can see Foneh Thornrup frantically conjuring up a video where he somehow finds all the solutions and saves the day for all R5 owners, of which there are 126 internationally.
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    andrgl reacted to Lloyd in Canon EOS R5 so-called overheat timer defeated by a single screw in battery door   
    A1ex is a legend I swear. That guy should replace the current CEO at canon
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    andrgl reacted to Andrew Reid in Removing internal battery resets EOS R5 overheat timer   
    Let's be honest, these stupid workarounds are not practical on set.
    It is up to Canon to fix the damn camera, not us.
    We paid the money, and not a small amount.
    Unscrewing the back, prodding the card door sensor, ripping the clock battery out... None of it is acceptable for $4000
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    andrgl reacted to Gene K in Removing internal battery resets EOS R5 overheat timer   
    Canon pants down? They are overheated and on fire!
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    andrgl reacted to John Matthews in Removing internal battery resets EOS R5 overheat timer   
    Has anyone considered the idea that Canon might have wanted to release the full potential of this camera at a later point? The argument could be made they wanted to own the entire "spec" buying videographer market, knowing Sony or someone else would have made something to compete that would be up to snuff to compete (again, in terms of specs). At this point, they'd release a new firmware "unlocking" the full potential on us unsuspecting customers. Both Fuji and Olympus have done this type of thing in the past, only with firmware.
    Yes, if this is so, it went horribly wrong for Canon.
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    andrgl reacted to Andrew Reid in Removing internal battery resets EOS R5 overheat timer   
    "Math Class" on Baidu now has extensive infrared thermometer readings of the camera's mainboard with the back off, showing they correspond closely to the temperature reported in the EXIF data and don't rise above 64C. His next finding is that if you remove the internal battery it resets the so-called overheating limitations. So who is telling the truth now, Canon?
    You can view the most recent findings here by the user "Math Class" (Google translated)
    Read the full article on EOSHD:
    https://www.eoshd.com/8k/removing-internal-battery-resets-eos-r5-overheat-timer-are-canons-pants-now-completely-down/
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    andrgl reacted to Andrew Reid in EOSHD testing finds Canon EOS R5 overheating to be fake   
    They only have two faces
    Frowny gurning face.
    AMAZED gurning face.
    And of course the two faces they show in real life... One face to the PR reps and one to their audience.
    Here's the results of my fridge test:
    https://www.eoshd.com/news/canon-eos-r5-overheated-in-my-fridge-after-just-60-jpegs-4-c-ambient/
    Maybe the freezer next but to be honest the point has been proven so many times.
    I'll put my effort into getting Canon to fix this now and getting an apology out.
    Otherwise, I'll see them in the small claims court and some of my 4380 euros back.
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    andrgl reacted to BTM_Pix in EOSHD testing finds Canon EOS R5 overheating to be fake   
    The more cynical ones are just keeping their powder dry so they can make a new "I was WRONG about the R5" with sad gurning face background.
    Then the "Have Canon FIXED the R5 with this new firmware ?" with puzzled chin scratching gurning face background.
    Then the "Canon R5 six months later" with excited gurning face background.
    Then the "Have I really swapped my R5 for a Polaroid instant camera?" with shocked gurning face background.
    And on.
    And on.
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    andrgl reacted to anonim in EOSHD testing finds Canon EOS R5 overheating to be fake   
    (Last topic's) lessons on shameless opportunism, part 3...
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    andrgl reacted to scotchtape in EOSHD testing finds Canon EOS R5 overheating to be fake   
    It doesn't matter what they say, all their fanboys will defend them even though it's obvious they want to protect their rumored C-series cameras with what is almost certainly the same sensor and capabilities.  It's so obvious why it's crippled... They basically don't have to do anything, they're #1 in Japan, they don't care what you or I think. 
    They're probably selling R5's like hot cakes, and even if they don't, they're selling enough of them to reduce the sensor costs for the C-series cameras and increase their margins, so it's win win win for them.
    Just look at some of the responses on the forum, people willing to frankenstein a $4K camera in 2020 because it's a canon, who would probably previously make fun of your solutions to cool down a $1,500 A6500 from 2016.
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