nazdar

This is the first camera since the release of nx1 which sounds innovative and interesting to me.

Lol Zacuto tests.

There is way less guinea pigs than used to be couple years back, even with big manufacturers like Red, BM, etc. Lots of ppl is rather waiting for 2nd generation products. Kickstarter is special teritory itself.

". . .Particularly interesting is that Samsung will make an SDK available with the firmware update for developers to make their own apps and remote control software for the NX1, which runs from an open source operating system."
 
Everyone together . . ."THANK YOU MAGIC LANTERN!"

This is a bit of a misnomer. The fast CF and SD cards required for raw video didn't exist 'years ago', which is likely why the DSLRs of yesteryear didn't have it as an option. Even now with the tech we have in 2014, raw recording is still very hit-or-miss and unstable. These cameras were released in '08. Developed with tech at latest from '07. It's not so much that camera companies were 'hiding' raw video... it's just that there was no way they could make it consumer-friendly. The tech did not exist then, in a stable and economical form.
 
But yea, the rest of your stuff is on point. 

Ah OK will fix that, thanks.

Oh I cant wait for another 8bit miracles from Canon.

A 10/12-bit 422/444 long GOP codec similar to Sony's XAVC would be excellent for these cameras (part of the H.264 spec). After spending long hours dealing with RAW, I only use RAW when I have no other choice. The 24Mbps FS700 codec still outperforms 5D3 14-bit RAW in resolution and actual dynamic range (due to the better sensor in the FS700). 5D3 RAW wins in color fidelity and post latitude: 10/12-bit 422/444 efficiently compressed is the best of both worlds.

Oh I cant wait for another 8bit miracles from Canon.

Sorry, fixed :D

overlay a fine 4k grain.  gives vimeo something to bite into and it sees the grain as detail that needs to stay.

When you can buy a 4K cell phone, but not a 4K DSLR, something is seriously wrong.  The camera market tanked in 2013.  It's really simple.  The camera companies are not innovating.  You can't keep selling the same old thing year after year, and expect people to buy it. 
 
Michael

While some of you complain about c100 and c300 being to expensive, it's not a problem for canon, they don't even want hobbyist to have these cameras.
Those 10k cameras are for professional's that shoot low budget commercials to weddings and music videos, there is plenty of money in that segment for gadgets like these.
Imagine the profit they get from a puny c300, that thing has an asp-c crop sensor, they say "canon digic III" processor and unrestricted codecs, nothing exotic like full hd at 200 fps, cpu on that thing is slow, all of that for 14000 $ :lol:, t2i sensor with proper processing and video camera features at 14000$, funny shit.

One question for Canon... Why in 2004 the DigicII eos 1Dmark II did 4k Mjpeg at 8 fps (it had a 8mpx sensor shooting 8fps till buffer full :) ) and my eos 6d with powerfull Digic 5+ cannot shoot Mjpg 24 fps full hd video...?

Consider the following..
 
>GH4 $1,698
>12-35 $1,104
>35-100 $1,275
 
>5D3 $3,299
>24-70 $2,299
>70-200 $2,499

One advantage of the smaller Nikon 1 sensor in the V1 and V2 is video image quality. It's fast enough to clock out all the lines and sub-sample for better image quality vs most DSLRs that line skips to get to the desired HD resolution. Presumably with the big video push of the V3 this remains true.

DE: I’m curious, then -- most DSLRs do video by line skipping. Does the D5300 read out all the lines, and then perform sub-sampling in the processor?

TY: Not to that extent, although the Nikon 1 does.

DE: The Nikon 1 reads out all of the sensor pixels?

TY: Yes.

DE: Ahh… That’s why Nikon 1’s video is very good.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2014/02/14/nikon-qa-head-of-development-sees-interchangeable-lens-slowdown-as-an-aberr

The Nikon 1 V series is a great b-roll camera where you have lens flexibility and the ability to take full frame stills while shooting video. The 18.2 f1.8 is a big equalizer for low light video work if it's enough reach. The 10-100 PD is a bit large (and slow) but absolutely quiet. I hope the new 10-30 PD is the same.

Here is a D800 vs Nikon V2 video quality comparison at different ISOs:




As noisy as the stills are above base ISO the video looks good. The system needs a fast zoom (f2.8) but has been nice so far. The lack of 4K is mildly disappointing but I don't have a 4K workflow anyway.

As I put in my articles, yes you can take 10bit 4:2:2 over the HDMI output. It's HD only.
 
All the info is here if you wanna read...
 
http://www.eoshd.com/content/tag/panasonic-gh4

If a pixel in the camera reads 14 bits of data you CANNOT get all of it back once you truncate to 8 bits of data.  
 
Certainly, there will probably be modest color/luma improvements by downsampling fomr 4K, but only within its 8bit dynamic range.  
 
That is to say, IN PRACTICE, if you shoot a scene that falls within the CODEC's dynamic range output you may get better color nuance through average of neighboring pixels.  But if the neighboring pixels are choppy then you're just going to create artifacts.
 
However, you cannot get values from those RAW pixels that were out of the 8bit range they took from the 14bits.
 
I don't mean to be rude, but you're confusing color bits with compression bits.  People who read this thread who think the GH4 is going to do what the Blackmagic cameras, ML RAW, or high end RAW based cameras do should understand this.

I'm curious Andrew, you liked the RX10 seemingly a lot for it's great feature set (for a run and gun shooter), but hated the AVCHD codec. You are also (obviously) very keen on 4K at the minute. So my question is this - It's been weeks since CES and not one peep from you about the AX100? Obviously it is not in direct competition with the GH4, but it does seem to fix the issues with the RX10 and add a similar 4K capability into the bargain... And at $1999 no less! 
 
Seriously don't get why this wasn't plastered all over EOSHD? This is the first 4K for $2K camera ever, has a 2.7x crop sensor (vs 2.3 in the Panasonic) with a decent ranging lens, 100Mbps 4K, scraps the crap AVCHD in 1080p, even supposedly does 120fps. So what gives?
 
It was like a week after you proclaimed going to 4K and everyone else should follow... So, could your trip to Panasonic have had something to do with both of those things (your post about everyone should go 4K and your complete silence on the AX100)?

Shhhhiiiit.... If you pack these specs in a Gh body I can walk around with for $3k, let's do it. This whole 8 bit thing needs to just go away
Though. Seriously. The technology is there. Just, be done with it already. I hope by the end of next year i never see that spec on an announcement again, because to me, what's the sense in packing a camera with a 4k, 200+ Mbps codec and bottle necking it with 8-bit? So you can see all of that banding in pristine quality? (1-DC?).

That is why I am watching the Kinefinity line very closely. Frankly, I hope it does very well.

The Blackmagic Pocket Cinema camera is a wake-up call to the bigger manufacturers and their afterthought video modes.

[url=http://www.eoshd.com/content/11256/open-letter-japanese-manufacturers-regarding-enthusiast-video-market-improve-lose]Read the full article here[/url]

Get me out of this 8 bit world!

Hang on, why do we need to wait 2-3 weeks for a rumor? If there is rumor out there spill it, isn't that what 43rumors is all about?  Or is 43rumors only allowed to publish what Panasonic and Olympus allow it to publish?
 
Hmmmmmm

They want to sell what they can develop relatively easily, CODECs and chips, instead of what really diminishes the quality of most video, from production to display--low dynamic range and as NTSC used to be mocked as, "Never The Same Color" twice.  That said, I doubt consumer video will change much, in that regard.  Data requirements just too high.  What Panasonic could do is allow Vitaliy to hack the GH line into producing RAW video.  Doubt that would ever be a press release though!