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I guess absolute freedom of speech... : ) I think Marty aka @PannySVHS is more focused towards credentials on this one 'cause a certain level of democracy typifies to weigh variables for making it fair and balanced. Ignorance cannot equal its opposite. It's all about that IMHO (EAG :- )

I just see some statements like they come from a certain grade of expertise when they don't : ) Without mention to put Peter Jackson, only to name one case, as he could be an authority on film aesthetics... *Phew* C'mon, this sounds a bit pathetic to not write plenty enough.

But if I would have only to buy one and carry with me? DJI Mini 4 Pro because flies too! LOL : ) On the ground to have with me all around? Osmo Pocket 3 or the new Ace Pro has also impressed me. Its 8K 24p looks like a winner there. A camera unfortunately or not is the one we can use. Going to a set? Ursa Mini Pro 12K, for some reason I've just purchased it :- )

I concur, Z8 (Z9 is a complete different camera despite to be a sister/brother) is the one to me right now, maybe, and I don't even have one... : D That infamous overheating aura scares me a hell of a bit!

Right. But realism is not absence of representation. The problem here is people come to discuss things they don't have clue about : ) With the due respect, it's not because someone is a skilled film professional in one or another technical aspect of this craft, I will discuss film aesthetics from some other departments of this same craft with. To each their own. And opinion doesn't convert a fact either. There is who understands it and who doesn't and never will. - EAG :- )

For a simple reason: with an APSC camera you won't have an action camera ; ) With the back-bone camera you'll have both! On the light side of the universe, yet: https://www.back-bone.ca/product-category/lenses/cs-c-mount/ https://www.back-bone.ca/product-category/adapters/ To me it is a perfect camera! : ) You need AF? Add another original unit to your kit. Ace Pro 8K 24p won't replace a FF Z8 8K 60p RAW as for instance but costs a fraction of the price... ;- )

Maybe for steady shots? Lovely colour rendering...

Looks like they have some filter there to previously control the comments posted once appears on the counter but not published (yet)... Let's wait, see and hope for their wish to make it real :- )

source here (where this thread is also linked there)

Hard to guess what camera model might be interesting to see to pop up from theirs...? ; ) Needless to say anything ; ) But the way they look like attached to GoPro, I wouldn't surprise myself if we would have to wait until September to realize what comes next...

*someone else's (pardon my dyslexia)

Interesting and helpful feedback, thank you for you care to let us know here in this community : ) I can't wait to see more from your findings and see you two with @kye cooperating with each other thoughts : )) Even when people disagree they invariably have something to share and something you two have in common, your passion and appreciation from us here I am pretty sure : ))) Speaking of me, I miss your posts when you're absent from these boards :- ) People always have something to learn from each other and someone's else experience.

No comments needed ; ) As previous Insta360 user must say their software is one of a kind :- )

EOSHD.com user @markr041has also posted some handy comparison here on these boards with the recent just arrived Osmo Pocket 3:

Unpaid honest review (with 8K sample @gt3rs) with a few comparison shootout testing with other capture setups (small YT studio environment), seems fairly neat to watch and see its potential for certain usage no miracles out there but definitely enough for professional applications, I am impressed because I've been struggling to see these devices for that purpose (had a couple of Hero 10 before I decided to sell):

Give it a chance: https://gyroflow.xyz/

On a not less serious note, the only advantage I see to shoot on 50p/60p or even 100fps/120fps is either going after the slowmo chance route on a 24p/25p timeline later on or stereoscope applications without the need for capture devices with the genlock feature all included in the bill to pay for the tool straight to the BTL (Below the Line) costs usually fixed and with a full impact directly within your budget for acquisition. But as someone already wrote here, if you want to respect the 360º look, don't forget you'll also either need for more light or a much more capable piece of technology, hence why I praise every single release to couple HFR feature on bright side of a good IQ balance and low light performance as has recently happened even from small sensor size introductions on light setup side of the world ; ) That. Not silly attempts on reinventing the wheel ;- ) I don't give a damn if their names are Peter Jackson or the free diver James Cameron : ) With the due respect, those names are no more than a mention in a single page of the history of this medium. In a word, hype. In a line, film aesthetics is much more than mere hype just for trying a larger entry into this book... - EAG :- )

They are different stuff for sure and ignore it trying to believe there's a new standard coming because it is fancy and more appealing to new audiences is a bit like to think a new tendence on global acceptance of LGBTQ on the rise will make heterossexuals like me guess we are so old-fashioned, so close to animal extinction, if we don't change!... LOL - EAG :- )

I mean, comparatively... between these 2 devices : ) And still comparatively, with 8K 24p on low light too only for the Ace Pro, obviously... :- )

For sure... They're all tools, nothing more. 12K/8K/4K can look all the same. People will still use 8K or 12K cameras. Once again, horses for courses!

Loved both! ; ) You cannot reach the same performance on GoPro for sure... Even though, Pocket is obviously my fav, I think there's place for the other one no doubt... Horses for courses beyond the small size factor. What resolution you've used the Ace Pro on these shots? 8K? It would be great to see 4K 120fps footage...

But you know what?... Opera music genre can only be shit coz singers look like to scream there and not having nuff raspy (aka hoarse) voice to impress the babes... who doesn't like babes? ; ) LOL : D Sorry guys, I couldn't resist and help myself! :- )

Matt, we two were practically writing at same time... Call it old-fashioned *cough cough* hey newcomers (never thought of a different meaning to this word I will omit to write it over here now LOL : ) but who once stared the eyes of Claudia Cardinale, face to face, as I've ever been lucky enough : ) realizes the real meaning for the expression TIMELESS... ;- )

Never in the history of this medium people were used to produce so much crappy footage... That's what really is. Aesthetics is a science. No one can intend to teach what doesn't know. A physician goes to a medical school, a lawyer to a law school. No layman can accurately think to even discuss with one or another. Eminem cannot be compared with Tchaikovsky or Strauss. The same way Michael Protzman with Martin Heidegger, only to refer a most odd outfit to some statements I've been reading over here, really :- )

Looks much better looking than your GoPro samples, you know? In all senses, don't we agree on here @markr041@kye?