Emanuel

I think it's a typical case of that Niels Bohr's quotation set (I | II | III) where both of you can be accurate TBH :- )

EDIT -- I should have written expectations in life instead, rather than something which can be confused by life expectancy... LOL In any case, you get the meaning of that anyway. Numbers speak volumes in fact : ) No need for much else :- )

I know it's not my 1st DLP love nor a LG CineBeam choice of other fellows over here such as @BTM_Pix but the fact is now you can buy it for a third of before when a quarter of century ago was a dream for 64x less resolution to cost 20x more, literally ; ) Which means a difference of 1280x : X Only to those who haven't had the chance to realize how critical the gap has been fulfilled since then... No need to be depressed if life expectations don't meet the standard of your dreams if that's the case of anyone of us to read this : ) Get one for 500 bucks : D and you can only end just fine ;- )

Limitations can help to balance it more with raising the creative side of our own very often ; ) - EAG

Who resists to these small ones? LOL ;- )

To back up another engineering sample of same camera, type of capture device, brand and model already at my own collection arsenal... Impossible to resist :- )

I dunno... I've just invested on a couple of NX500 units bought for US $200 each, my most recent camera purchase ;- )

@herein2020 @FHDcrew well done ; ) congrats guys! - EAG :- ) PS: Mine is a work in progress... : ) Started earlier than 2023, will end later on... (listed on IMDb). Happy New Year to you all!

@PannySVHS yet... As soon as I will have other Android devices in hands I will test the app with, for sure ; ) Those LG (the V50 model for example) you've mentioned look to fulfill the cup on budget though, as for instance in this sample:

Thanks and Merry Christmas to you all and in particular you Marty : ) To reply your wondering, two negative findings have placed me on hold about this one for now so far: reliability and storage limitations of these mobile devices for such hungry memory requirements, at least the few I've tested, among them my mostly used OnePlus 9 Pro... the personal mobile phone of daily usage.

* misleading us with that title

Left my thanks-like above but had no time yet to address a comment I think fully justifies also because he is one of the most valuable contributors in this community and I think it's worthy of it too, so here is now : ) When I've watched this project of Carl Dreyer (here's some meeting with film students to only those who understand Danish though), some former film critic and older fellow from same alma mater/filmschool, programmer from a mainstream network/state TV and responsible for a TV program dedicated to short film on-air for decades (I proudly designed) told me he didn't like it because the Danish filmmaker had repeated shots on this short film paid by the local road safety authorities where seems Dreyer simply made the apology of speed instead for many of the viewers if not all... I stayed with my doubts and still keeping that typical feeling of a masterpiece anyway ; ) Came to my mind now 'cause the use of those cycling sunset shots by @kye towards the refuge staring there in the coast before the upcoming night as epilogue. Why this is film? You play with the one outside beyond the pictures, not only but no less, the time to come*... That's cinema! - EAG * from the material previously organised by the filmmaker there in the film, that's why kye is misleading us ; ) LOL to add some fabrication on it, art is real but also fake and true at same time, the truth of cinema : X this is film, after all ;- )

The problem, Glenn aka mercer here, is the absence of notion and understanding what time is for the matter of motion pictures. They never read a few mandatory ones before to even dare to pronounce anything subject-related (and I wouldn't even mention some other contribution already cited earlier here) but they feel themselves entitled to talk about things some other ones devoted their entire life to. "The photographer proceeds, via the intermediary of the lens, to a point where he literally takes a luminous imprint, a cast... [But] the cinema realizes the paradox of moulding itself on the time of the object and of taking the imprint of its duration as well." “Reality is not art, but a realist art is one that can create an integral aesthetic of reality.” "Photography does not create eternity, as art does; it embalms time, rescuing it simply from its proper corruption." ~ André Bazin Here we have a short description on his life and work as well some other thirty quotes/reflexions about this medium as essential food for thought: https://www.bookey.app/quote-author/andre-bazin

Funny enough : ) But as much as lies with perception and what this is and means (no less important at all and please don't come to say you haven't understood all these words one after the other), it is all about the concept not the form to be adopted in different stages of the evolution of the progress itself. The point, of you exclusive geeks (I am one but beyond to only be one : ) is the way you diminish the importance of the concepts... :- ) And you then come to me to talk about science?? : D Really?

@zlfan with the due respect and pretty friendly... what else? ; ) Please let this community know WTH of shit you're smoking? : D I'm saying this 'cause people respond to you and you insist on the same argument as before like going on circles... LOL You obviously don't read the replies you ask, as a lot of others among us have expressed such concern about so particular world of your own, dude... : P

Henry Ford said on his T-model that any customer could have any color he/she wants so long as it's black... LOL ;- )

The only idiomatic differences you @Jedi Master can claim is the fact the form "to have been" in Portuguese is called "Pretérito Perfeito Composto" which means past and in English "Present Perfect" against the "Present Simple" used by me instead ; ) So, for some reason, I've placed it in the present tense in both idioms ;- )

That nuance is nothing about the use of distinct idioms, idiomatic meanings, etc. Nada ; ) Verb tenses work the same in each one of those two. For the sake of it. In this case. I've introduced the word "already" in Portuguese ("já"), that's why the translator placed the verb as I would have written if I had written it in English. In the first version though, no use of such word. I would probably haven't written "the wheel is already invented". Hence the word "already" stayed off. I wanted to lay emphasis on that, reason why I wrote "the wheel is invented" instead. "The wheel has already been invented" is not translated in Portuguese: "A roda já está inventada" (present tense). Nope. That's not what I said in Portuguese. I wrote in the present tense on purpose. You two come here with the bizarre idea 24p is outdated. There's a new future to come. That usual yadda yadda. 24p -- the same applies for the mechanisms which produce the mainstream, both are not the wheel invented in the past tense, something prone to change. No. They are valid yesterday, today and tomorrow. That's the big mistake of such argument :- ) - EAG

No, it didn't. What changed there? The word "already" to couple to "the wheel is invented"? LOL That one is the same written earlier in English : ) And from your response, it is easy to see we're talking about different things ; ) Nothing about room for improvement. Art hasn't been invented with the medium of film. It won't be reinvented with the future to come neither. Nothing changes when more people as target are added to the equation. The wider you go or the larger your target is appointed as, the narrower the quality of your content needs to be. To reach more people. Theoretically, the more educated audiences you have, the better outcome your chances are. The more complex and most influential mainstream will become. It's all about that. The point is that's mere food for dreamers. It will hardly be achieved. Low level is not to be pessimist but realist.

*knowledge (no typos or carefree language converted in written posts will contaminate the speech or the understanding of the receiver... the same for the use of a non-native idiom as second language, that's beyond and more complex than that)

As said before, it would work exactly the same : ) Really. Don't you follow the problem going on here? As written earlier too, a filmmaking forum is not a campus even though the efforts made along these many pages... haha I am pretty sure you're able to find competent Colleges, Universities or a filmschool where people may learn the basics on the topic handled there. To leave it out of the context doesn't help either. One of those is true anyway: 1) You're doing it on purpose just trying to succeed with the art *cough cough* of winning an argument... : D 2) Or you're just being picky because there's some portion of a line to actually escape you... Reading is a fuck* indeed. * For such level of material, the meaning of the stuff is hidden in the articulation of the subliminal text, between the lines and the like. It's not inside the post you'll definitely find the information you're looking for. There's a whole construction out there. Takes many years, experience of life, academics and so on. A whole lifetime almost invariably. But once you asked it: Expandir o espectro não significa necessariamente algo melhor. Muitas das vezes, apenas pior (= down). Infelizmente, este é o caso. Este é o drama real que o nosso medium vive hoje. Não esse alvoroço em torno da questão do número de fotogramas. A roda já está inventada. Did it help? I doubt whatever you'll add as your answer to the question. For a simple reason. There are concepts like mainstream, to make the audience wider, what it does mean (when the knwoledge spread allover the population is low), mass communication and so on. Let alone art itself. Yes, art, aesthetics... How many times they come to be written here? And, so what? Gilles Deleuze and Artavazd Peleshyan have been mentioned by myself. Have you ever been in touch with their work? Any contact with the meaning of their contribution in fact? :- )

LOL : ) A book requires a bit more though. Let alone those with different volumes... : P There's no book nor even a booklet without readers, so I think we should be all here honoured with your attention ; ) The finest example of it you have in that infamous thread mentioned up there which along these two weeks has already reached 16 pages so far... *cough cough* yet requires a bit more to be considered like that. There are books and books and different ones for very distinct readers who also speak volumes about the books they're used to read ;- )

Not exactly. We have two possible perwpectives on this one: Seeing democratization as something welcome. It really is. But not without flaws such as the one mentioned. When people have no structure, as for instance, knowledge in order to be able to manage such access. I meant instead though, when the wider the less. Because of that need to reach everyone, the more the better. In this case, it is often the more the lower. Communication becomes poorer. Standards come down from something higher, better, more sophisticated, not seen as something necessarily elitist but high-ranking content, complex to the other side of the coin for something capable to be absorbed by many. That's what mainstream means more invariably than it should. Wider doesn't necessarily bring anything better or higher. Lots of times, just down. Yes, unfortunately. This is the real drama our medium lives. (Not such frame rate uproar... the wheel is invented!) - EAG :- )

I stand corrected, obviously, 24 is a multiple of several ones but not of 5... LOL It is 'cause my mind lives in the PAL world... : D BTW, we use 25p because of the electricity and the frequency used here: 50Hz. So, still stands for 24: 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 12

The same way why you've chosen this one and not other individual to spend your lifetime with ; ) In this case, something had to be chosen as a standard. Nothing against standards. They comply a function. Would any of them be relevant to the equation? Well, 24 is a multiple of several ones (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 12), 23 not ; ) Even 25 (1,5), a way less than 24. Human perception works with mathematical variables. Universe is math. https://www.livescience.com/42839-the-universe-is-math.html Human perception works with perspective. Isn't 30p or 60p farther, or further away from 24p as you wrote, so as you have even confirmed? ;- ) - EAG :- )