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No offense but if you need *8k* to crop and re-frame for 1080p editing you got bigger issues than resolution! ?

16bit is ordered by marketing department. Even 14bit is only useful at base ISO, beyond that you only waste the extra bit with noise. 

I haven't seen a sport shooter with 20mp or 24mp camera who says "I need more pixels". 

I was pretty busy yesterday with other things. But I did have a brief play with the Z6 in as fairly dark room. I took pictures at 6400 ISO. They came out really clean.  I have a feeling this cameras is going to live up to the hype regarding low light performance. 
Some notes: the camera feels light. It's clearly well made,  but not heavy.  The only lens I've attached so far is the 24-70mm native lens... I like it.  I love the size.  I mostly shot with the Canon yesterday as the Nikon was charging. The Nikon feels like a feather next to the 1DXMk2. As we bought the Nikon to be a go everywhere camera, the small and light combination checks a lot of boxes for us. I usually associate light weight with poor build quality... in most products. But this is strangely not the case with the Nikon. The camera is solid and of high quality. Holding it you feel confident that it will not let you down.  I can report that I do like the ergonomics, but I do miss the battery grip with shutter button. We always opt for a battery grip on our cameras. Nikon missed out on some tidy profits by omitting this option with the Z6/7. 
I suspect I will miss the portrait tilt of the X-T3. Who knew that was a thing? But once you've had a screen with portrait tilt, it's something you realize is pretty handy. I don't miss the flip out screen of the GH cameras. I always use an external monitor or recorder when shooting video anyway. 
Single card slot is a non issue for me. Menus... I like the menus... they seem really easy to navigate. The learning curve is not too steep if you are familiar with modern cameras. 
It's a very different camera than the X-T3 and Canon in feel and handling and vibe. It beats the GH5/S in hand. Overall, I would say it reminds me most of the Sony... if the Sony was more refined. 
I plan to do some shooting with the Z today. I need to understand how it compares to the Canons... both the 1DXMk2 and C200. I want to know how easy it is to match the footage with the Canons... the C200 in particular. I know the C200 can be made to look like the Nikon... RawLite has a lot of depth. But can NLog bend to look like the C200 without breaking? 
A word about the EOS R... that was the camera we wanted to purchase. The cats out of the bag.  I'm confident it would have matched perfectly to the C200. But Canon just had to pull a Canon. Cropping the 4k video to essentially m43... but without the ability to offset the extreme crop with a speedbooster. Hey Canon, Nikon and Fuji send their regards. With that out of the way,  I REALLY want to love this camera. It's off to a good start, I'll know more soon.  

This should be interesting...
 

Added a quick clarity and sharpening to DPR's 4k sample of A7III. They are very close in details. And as we know, Sony Standard color is terrible.

Oooohh we can get a new episode out of that.

Meanwhile at DPReview:

So much for free speech!
And their feedback section has plenty of concerns about the amount of sponsored content they have been running lately
https://***URL removed***/forums/5001
Which I criticised... Hence the ban on my links.
Are we living in China or the west?

Q: Where is the SDI Port?
A:

https://***URL removed***/news/2936447826/cinemartin-launches-fran-cameras-with-8k-global-shutter-and-raw-support
It shouldn't get the publicity.
I have been burned before by a clickbait writer slapping something up on DPReview because it has a buzzword in the title. They publicised a Kickstarter campaign for a high speed camera which had WAY more credibility than this but it led to a £1000 loss for me.

"During her time there, she made the case that the business should focus its attention on content creators.
That was a really valuable business opportunity, and an area no one was really focused on," Sud said. She made the case to Vimeo, and "because of that, I was given an opportunity to run the company."
lol. Guys she is a visionary.
They should start by updating their servers so people can stream 1080p let alone 4k. I didn't even need to go to Harvard Business School to come up with that idea! ?

A CEO says "failing often can be empowering" because they are never the ones to get the brunt of the consequences and can always continue their career somewhere else high-paid.
I think it's almost like a spoilt child who doesn't care what toys they break as they immediately get a replacement!
She's shafting us who rely on Vimeo for work, and at the same time is immune herself to the controversy. Living in some kind of bubble. It's the highest form of entitlement and late stage capitalism.

I think it is too late. They bought her in there to chop off some heads, and apparently she is damn good at it for the time being.
I think the bought her in there to be the scapegoat. And they can blame it on her youth. And then they will hire some middle of the road CEO and get it back on track after weeding out the bad apples in their mind.

Travel paid for by Adobe.
Trip organised by Adobe.
Meetings organised by Adobe.
But the sellout is all Johnnie's.

Z-Cam: "We have produced the most mundane and uninspiring footage that any company could ever possibly publish for promoting their cinema camera"
Cinemartin: "Hold my beer....."

We should start a new sub-forum. Fixing Max's tests in post.

ah those well known matching colour profiles - PP1, Eterna and Neutral!

Well the Nikon Z7 is a $3500 pro camera. Does Max really think the people who buy it are going to use it on the default settings out of the box and not even explore the different automatic WB presets which would have fixed Bart Simpson and the other picture styles such as Flat which would give more control of colour in post?
It's not a mom & pa's camera. It's a professional mirrorless camera and he's testing it like a bloody iPhone or a point & shoot.
It's just an excuse for lazy testing and gettin' it out quick.
Sadly he has 100,000s views and the good guys who WAIT do not. That's what happens when you have no editorial control over a network (YouTube) and promote stuff based on FIRST and VIEWING STATS.

From those silly/cheap/fake Sony zoom lenses (which work well, with everything corrected in-camera) to Zeiss primes.
The most successful cameras these days must be the FS7i and ii though. Most TV series are using those. In the one I am working currently for a major network (doing sound), we have 2x2 FS7ii with the latest Sony 18-110mm. 
One of the biggest productions here is using C300mkII with the Canon primes, but Sony dominates right now.
I have to add that I prefer working with Canon C cameras (ergonomics, menu, skin tones) but most production companies buy Sony.

Well if the other tests are like the frist one... Will he compare the dynamic range from 10bit log on the fuji with 8bit internal Vivid picturestyle on the nikon? Who knows...

Pixel peeping is alive and well I see!
Nikon Z7 is fine. It is a miracle in full frame from 8.2K down to 4K. Very nice detail level. Very good dynamic range and colour, which Max's test doesn't even touch on.
Z7 in APS-C is similar but less aliasing / stair stepping - but we are talking 4K here, so at normal viewing distances you don't even see the aliasing in full frame mode, let alone in the oversampled Super 35 mode.
The EOS R is soft. So what. It's 4K. You have more detail than you'll ever need unless cropping 4x into the image.
You wanna know why I don't do tests like this very much anymore?
1. Nobody views your film or music video at 400% crop. The absolute sharpness level in 4K means JACK SHIT. What you want is a soft stable cinematic image - not hard digital sharpness. In fact it's an *advantage* to have a softer image for YouTube, when the player is scaling it down to fit any number of screen resolutions - especially a 1080p screen. It looks more natural when people view it downscaled or even on a 4K TV from normal viewing distances. In the first case the downscaling works badly with a digitally sharper, harder image vs a softer, more cinematic one. In the second case the natural downscaling from the human eye at a longer viewing distance makes a less hard 4K image at 1:1 look more natural and less fatiguing than a "harder" image which shows more emphasised detail. We have plenty enough detail in 4K as it is, even on the EOS R and to overemphasise it, like in Max's video, is a BAD THING.
2. The test by Max claims to be about image quality when he's only testing one small aspect of it and not even very well. He's actually looking 90% at the sharpening levels in the menus, rather than outright performance of the image. All the cameras apply a different level of sharpening to bring out extra detail. You can dial it down or up. So what? How natural and cinematic does that fine detail look to the real viewer? That is the real question.
3. Max's video tests just one aspect of the camera and seems to imply it's 90% of what makes a good image. A wide shot of a building with constantly shifting light at dusk so that not even the lighting conditions are matched on each comparison shot. It says nothing of colour, dynamic range, skin-tones, lenses, sensor size, rolling shutter, motion cadence, codec performance, macro blocking, mud, compression, grading, bit-depth, LOG profile performance and  how easy or not it is to grade. These are the things that determine the final result. These are the important things and not ONE in isolation but ALL together.
Go back and do a proper test Max that takes you longer than half an hour... But no, he's got subscriber numbers and viewers to chase so it must be done quick!
Why the Z7 is singled out for criticism because of Max's test is beyond my understanding.
It justifies the pricing over the A7R III because it is a flat out better camera in every aspect of image quality and handling.
It justifies the pricing over the D850 because it adds video AF which actually works, gets rid of the mirror, fixes the ergonomics in live-view, shaves the pounds off and at the same time maintains the incredible video quality.

I like a lot what I see here, but seems Sony has some metering issue (or profile?).. look at the clipped highlights in 8 bit part:
 
 

I like a lot what I see here, but seems Sony has some metering issue (or profile?).. look at the clipped highlights in 8 bit part:
 
 

I like a lot what I see here, but seems Sony has some metering issue (or profile?).. look at the clipped highlights in 8 bit part: