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My review is finally online ! I hope it will help people and answer a few questions ! Let me know what you think of it ! It took me so much time and yet I just have shaky footage to show... I'll shoot something decent soon, a real project !

That's not what I have seen from my tests. Pictures shot with same lens, at same aperture, at native iso (800 for the BMPCC, 400 for the BP4K) :

This sensor has been in development since the time of Adam and Eve. And probably won't be ready before judgment day. ???

The thing I love about the X-T3 is it is also a great stills camera.

Haha, I had it on my sigma for my OG pocket and now I can’t get it off ? Been stuck on there for years!

Hello everyone! I received my BMPCC4K almost a week ago and unfortunately I haven’t had much time to play with it so far but I wanted to give you my first impression and observation in the hope these might be helpful! BUILD QUALITY / ERGONOMICS: The camera is pretty big (and wide especially) but it’s surprisingly light. I’m not a huge fan of the exterior plastic material as it feels a bit cheap and quite prone to scratches but at the end of the day this a professional tool so as long as it’s able to withstand normal use I’m not too bothered about it. I haven’t found any spots that are cause for concern, yes the battery cover it’s a bit flimsy like other people reported but it never came open on me (and even if it did the battery is safely hold in place with a spring loaded clip so it won’t fall over anyway). The lens mount seems pretty robust, I tried mounting some heavy lens and haven’t experienced any flex so it seems all good. The mounting points looks very sturdy as they’re surrounded my a metal plate so if you plan to mount something heavy without a cage it looks like is not gonna be a problem. The camera feels quite good in the hand the only reservation I have is that is fairly easy to obstruct the bottom exhaust while shooting handheld as it’s the natural resting point for the hand that operate the lens. The screen is pretty awesome I should say, it’s detailed, responsive has good colours and it’s surprisingly bright when needed. Is it usable under direct sunlight without a hood? In my experience barely but so is the vast majority of built-in screens out there, for that you need something very bright like a smallHD 1500nits or something similar. USABILITY/OPERATION: Like many other people said before this camera is an absolute joy to operate, the menu system is one of the best in the industry, it’s logically laid out and super intuitive. Overall the experience is much more akin to a RED or an Alexa rather than a hybrid camera and this is good given the this is a cinema camera after all ? I like how everything can be controlled so easily via the touchscreen but I like even more the fact that you don’t have to rely on it if you prefer not to or you’re in a shooting situation in which is not practical. All the main functions have dedicated buttons (and a dial in the front just under the record button) plus the three functions buttons are completely programmable either as toggles for specific functions or you can assign a precise value to a parameter that you wish to quickly recall (say you want to go to iso 3200 with a touch of a button you can do that) The Preset menu is another gem of the OS, you can save camera configurations with totally different settings and recall them in a moment, it’s a massive timesaver! The screen, other than being of great quality, offers an impressive range of tools for a built-in screen the highlight of which (for me) is definitely the inclusion of false colours which is such a great tool to expose and is something that is never present in hybrid cameras. Battery life is not amazing but again it’s quite normal for a cinema camera with an actively cooled sensor I think. I would say you can expect 35-40 minutes recording time quite consistently. Like other users reported already original Canon batteries seems to give the best and most consistent results and are the only one providing a percentage to the camera so I might swallow the hefty price and buy a couple extra of them. I haven’t had any problems with stuck batteries so far and I hope it stays this way! I’ve recorded mainly on SD cards and I’m glad to report that my Sony G ones can reliably record 4K RAW 60fps 4:1 with no issues (although they’re not in the official list provided by BM but I suppose they’re very similar to the new “Tough” series just released which are approved instead). I also used SanDisk Extreme Pro UHS-I and although they’re not fast enough for 60fps they can record 4K 25 RAW 4:1 with no issues. I’ve also made a test with a random SSD mounted in a usb-c caddy and it worked perfectly so I’m probably gonna purchase a couple of Samsung T5 as soon as I find a nice holder that I can use without a cage. IMAGE QUALITY: This is where the camera really shines (and it’s kind of important I reckon, right?) ? The images are detailed and rich, the colour science is very very good out of the box and coupled with the ease of use and the big screen is easy and fast to acquire great footage. The dynamic range is not greater than other cameras like the GH5s or the A7III but the numbers on papers often don’t tell the full story.. The camera produces files that have not been processed in any way (if you shoot raw of course) so it’s actually easier to squeeze every bit of information from them compared to a heavily compressed codec. As other users already noted I found the highlights rolloff to be a bit on the harsh side so I’d say it’s a good idea to protect the highlights with this camera as a priority. The dual native ISO values of 400 and 3200 are a very good choice in my opinion, particularly in daylight when you don’t have to use a ton of ND filtration to get the correct exposure. Noise levels are pretty good although I have to say there is more chroma noise that I would like (particularly compared to the kind of monochrome noise Sony has accustomed us to with their sensors) but again, with files this good it’s quite trivial to use your denoiser of choice and get rid of it without murdering the image. I also noticed in a couple of shots some moire/aliasing and unfortunately this is quite inevitable since this is not an oversampled sensor readout and there is no OLPF… This is it for now, hope I haven’t bored you to death and that you’ve found useful information and I promise to follow soon with more details and some hopefully nice images too! Have a great weekend everybody!

This guy is a genius: he actually FIGURED OUT that 4096 pixels are more than 3840 pixels !

I fixed the loose mount issue by bending the spring tabs with a screwdriver and lenses now fit nice and snug with no play.

Rear lens - 80mm. Designed for 35NAP family and other big scopes. Can be used also with smaller scopes thru adapters.Tests and footage next week.

From the look on his face, I think he's actually doing this ...

Sage, I bought the LUT and I have been blown away. I want to thank you so much. It really unlocks the GH5. I think it would be great if you can do more video tutorials as well on the best uses. Also, without having to do all the work of making a new GH5s lut, could you just do a lut that matches the GH5 to the GH5s V-LOG (GH5 looks a bit more green to me) the way you do a C-LOG conversion?

That one is easy to set - its a more locked off profile like VLog. I would just recommend Sharpness and NR to be set to -5 for optimal texture. Be sure to check out the PDF (which is attached, as its now only 1.5MB) GHa Documentation V3.pdf Another from Ryan, great shots throughout (v2 Soft): ASHLAND

Really nice footage and great review. The delivery of your voice over made me think a lot of Jean-Pierre Jeunet's movies - you should do more.

Thank you ! It is nice to hear, especially coming from someone I always enjoy reading ! Yes I'm sure the camera can endure shocks but I won't try it either ! Blackmagic could surely offer a "my menu" tab, but the whole menu is so clean and simple, I don't even know I would use it ! Anyway, I had so much more to say about the camera, but doing it in english was so exhausting haha, so I tried to keep it simple. In french, I'd probably freestyle for hours about the camera !

Really enjoyable. I agree with you regarding the initial impression of the build quality. It is almost certainly more robust than it feels but I wouldn't fancy putting that to the test ! The buttons could have done with having a bit more travel or resistance (especially the Record button which on mine at least is so easily activated that it feels more like a touch sensor than a physical switch!) but, yes, I do think its a really nice layout too. The menu system is up there with the Leica T in terms of elegance and simplicity and it would be great in a future update if BM took a similar path as Leica with offering an option for a custom menu screen with just the functions you want from other menus.

It's interesting that you're able to perform DR comparisons by mentally comparing unrelated and differently graded shots seen on youtube, and are confident enough in the results to announce them. The usual complaint about youtube "reviews" of BMD cameras is that the tuber has no idea how to grade the material, so the tests are meaningless. But it's gone one better now: comparisons of unrelated shots (from youtube?) done by memory.

I will tell you quite frankly my humble two cents on it: ...the best device is the one you take with you as we both know ; ) Does that fulfills the cup? Take a look on that 1st clip I've just introduced with my editing, as for instance. So, fits my bed ; )) No extra size needed ; -)

It seems you still need some IR filtration with the new Pocket. Top picture is from the P4K with a dense ND filter. Bottom is from a smartphone.

I watched a lot of videos online and it seems like the 2 pro isn't as great as we all wished it to be. It seems like for a portion of the money, the Air is the most portable solution, and the cheaper 1" Phantom has much better IQ. I am not so excited anymore. It is a better Mavic, but not that great in general, and Mavic's IQ was terrible, to start with.

What are your recommended profile settings when shooting in HLG for the HLG to V-Log L transformation? Heavily considering picking up ghA soon, thanks

Except that slog is unworkable internally ,you get color noise and compression artifact all over the place, so If you want to have all the DR that the sensor have to offer you need to record externally . I do a lot of post work and when you start to move things around, it s immediately visible . The youtube argument is a nonsense, because even in cinema your bitrate is limited to 250 Mb/s, it s about having some room in post to get your image where you want it before you compress it again. But my work sometime get screened at festivals so to me it matters. The motion blur look very different as well. The examples you sent me have little motion to them. But yeah, if you shoot cine4 and upload straight to youtube, that make less sense. I disagree with the face tracking comment , I shoot with Batis and it work very well, way better than any focus puller would manage on large format/long lens/large aperture , I do MV and fashion mostly and I can t always know where the model/performer is going to move ( and if it s dancer, I want to let him/her do his/her things). Beside on a shoulder rig you can see both the rear screen and the recorder so you know when it lock in, the screen don t go off if you setup the video signal/trigger properly. You need to go to the menu and force 4k 24fps out then deactivate the internal recording , and activate to control trigger over hdmi. If you leave the default parameter, the screen go black and you loose face tracking.

Andrew? Are you sure you're a reader of him? Humm... Andrew is an enthusiastic camera observer. The best quality of his work as reviewer IMO is to be as much brand agnostic as me ; ) Reason why I am here BTW : -)

even the sharpened Eos R file is missing some detail in comparison. The small branches on the right are easily distinguishable in the Fuji image, but neither in Canons unsharpened nor oversharpened image. But I agree with the generell idea, that sharpness nowadays is way overrated and there are many things that are more important. At the same time I don't get, why anyone should praise the Canon for things that it's not. This is the reason why canon gets away with a lot of awful decisions

Once again Andrew you're blinded by your inherent Canon bias.

I turn down sharpness all the way but I never add sharpening in post. Same with photos. The bad thing about canon is their 120fps is pretty poor. I think Canon's 4k is nice. Their 1080 tends to be really noticeably softer even without punching in. Thats where the problem is for me. Haven't seen any 1080 EOS R stuff yet or at least not comparisons.

I had to create an account to respond to your comments regarding the A7III and the Ninja V. Oh nah. That's a negative. It can definitely not be classified as massive. I have both an a7III and an Atomos Inferno..while there is a difference, it is negligible. Here are some examples here and here comparing XAVC-S vs ProRes . And once you upload the video online and youtube has its way with it, the difference with compression artifacts are even more negligible. The money you invest in an external recorder for 8bit Slog2 would be much better invested in an other things. Yah. If you are shooting 4k...you can't really track faces reliably. The LCD on the back of the A7III goes off and you get no green box on the external monitor. Sure it "tracks" but in more of a "I pray this works" sorta way.

AAAAAAAAGGGHHHHH Amount of BLUR is NOT repeat NOT, BOKEH! Bokeh refers to the quality, not quantity for want of a better expression. The Bokeh in that video is actually quite similar (as it should be since the shots are taken with the same lens, just at different stops). Had he used different lenses giving different bokeh, even at the same f stops it would have been more relevant for what he was saying. What he was comparing was simply looking at ONE lens, used at different apertures and looking at the subject/background and asking what people liked.

Man, I knew I appreciate your insights. But you took exactly my thoughts this time when I watched it, even before this thread to have popped up. So I guess we cannot go wrong, both of us, in any way whatsoever... ; -)

I use the following: - In Project Settings, under Color Management, Change to Davinci Color Managed - Under Color Management select: -- Rec 2020 HLG ARIB STD-B67 for Input Color Space -- Rec 2020 HLG ARIB STD-B67 for Timeline Color Space -- Rec 709 HLG ARIB STD-B67 for Output Color Space

Kye, I'm afraid I have not too usable advice about VFR modes - so far I'm not using slow motion for my needs, except very rarely 60p, and that just because of better stabilization or exposure controlling usage - saying that, as far as I know you can use HLG mod in 60p... But I'm sure Jon Pais have all answers. As I already mentioned, I tend to treat any camera as much as possible as base cinema type with as low as possible bothering with settings - even thinking about AF buttons looks too complicated to me (besides being uninspiring)... Just set ISO and WB, HLG without bothering with lowering sharpening and NR and other settings, as often as possible just 24p, always MF lenses, etc. - sparing all precious time/concentration for evaluating composition of image. And enjoying/trying to master manual focusing precision... that's I'm always shooting with Atomos recorders and why level of smoothness and extremely precise linear focusing respond are, for me, the most important feature searched in lenses. What I missed from BM cameras is corrective advantage of raw files. 10bit image of GH5 offer indeed great and enough flexibility in post, however you have to think about close-to-proper WB... but I tend not to think about anything, just about picture in front of me. In GH5 you are safe up to iso 1600 although in dark conditions there are always some grains above iso 400 but it is very fine and often even desirable. BTW after all talks and personal testing, for me that's where finished GH5s difference - in GH5s you are safe up to iso 3200... of course, I'm talking about aesthetically and professionally most demanding shooting scenarios. Some kind of NR can spread range in one stop above respectively... Internal GH5s NR becomes too aggressive above iso 3200 and image, especially with humans, looks too cheap and plastic. Color science... GHa is a little marvel of devotion and knowledge. Combine it with Resolve's precise grading instruments and you can mimic quality of look of any high end cinema camera for exporting in HD resolution. That's one of the wonderful example when progress in technical side of simulation capability (anatomy of color, digital achievements in providing its impressions) and person's know-how, beat market position. Yes, today you can shoot totally competitive movie with GH5, as also with Fuji XX or Sony A7iii or Canon-Mercer etc.. If you are UK located, I've found that Ex-Pro newer type of battery (those with bigger capacity) are perfect for replacing original one, as also for Sony battery for Atomos recorders... (And in UK you can buy new GH5s for about 1850-1900e at the moment, GH5 for 1380, order Pocket 4K for 1350e...) EDIT: As idea, if you already didn't find it - you can map all important settings just in joystick's positions! I don't know if it is possible with other cameras, but that's so great for lazy persons like me...