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Why can't we all just have a big hug and get along? :) Anyway here we go: http://philipbloom.net/2012/09/15/genesis/ Enjoy. Sweet camera! :wub:

[quote name='theSUBVERSIVEBIRDS' timestamp='1347734379' post='18156'] What I don't get in people nowadays is how they think that everybody has to have the exactly same necessity over things and usually - actually always - think that people has the same necessity as them, like it's not possible to have different needs.[/quote] I agree. One thing that no one has mentioned here is that the BMC is the first camera ever made by BlackMagic. The GH3 is coming from an established camera company with several previous models that Panasonic has been able to use as benchmarks and improve upon. As good as it looks, this is the FIRST camera by BlackMagic. The first step can be painful. It's something I think that everyone should take into consideration when it comes time to buy a camera. For my needs (mostly short films and the occasional corporate shoot when we're short a camera at work), I could make either camera work. I will probably end up buying the GH3 and then possibly the [i]successor[/i] to the BMC MFT because if it is as excellent as it looks, there WILL be a successor.

After seeing the built and video quality (and features for sound), of the GH3, I am guessing, it will be noticeably more expensive. Maybe around US$ 2000, with the lens kit (or, maybe, a little under). That's just my guess. Also, because, This Time Around, Panasonic are gonna go All Out, to make sure it outsells (justifiably), all other DSLRs, that record HD Video.

panasonic decide not to treat GH as a bastard child of video production any more ... that is a great news ....

It seems they solved all main issues (except rolling shutter). Clean, detailed, with good range and no banding images. 72 all-i is really good, beyond competition's more expensive products. What really I don't understand is why half of the short movies with a minimum of storyline end up in a guy running for a girl. It's hard to belive that Bruce Logan didn't realize he was doing something seen so many times in the DSLR world since Reverie. It seems technology is filling the gap but plot... so many times is poor. Short movies could be excellent for puzzling stories well told in a handful of minutes, and a good one can really help the promotion message behind it.

[b]markm[/b] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]"[b][i]Sorry Andrew will disagree with you on this one. Now people dont forget this is just my opinion so need to insult me with personal attacks or fanboy defences.[/i][/b][/font][/color] [b][i][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]The original camera run ONLY at 24fps What use is that apart from internet films and vimeo test fan films. Can't record sound seperately and synch it without steps. Only useful for making films to transfer to celluloid if you could afford it and were dumb enough to do it as AVCHD at 8 bit 4,2 0 and 23mbps put paid to any of that.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]So zero use as a film camera and zero use as a normal one.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]They did upgrade it to 25fps MUCH later on AFTER Vitaliys hack and AFTER everyone had been crying out for 25p.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]The camera was intentionally crippled surely we can all see that. How could Vitaliy, Driftwood, manage to get so much more out of it if this were not the case. Working on the assumption it was deliberatley crippled you have to ask what has changed and then have a close look at why the GH3 does what it does.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Effectively it trumps the GH2 hacks and may actually stop hacking[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Next it allows the four thirds lenses to carry on in case people might think panny have deserted it. I'm sure they will desert four thirds next time round though. [/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]The GH3 is it an answer to the BMC or to the slew of new cameras coming out now or are they all trying to squeeze Black magic out and recapture what they are losing along with all their mates. Because what they stand to lose is the ability to drip feed cameras with slight improvements. Segment the pro from the consumer and maximise money by small upgrades year on year. Simply because its got so bad (The crippling) That Black Magic can take off the shelf parts and make a camera that has pro res in built and RAW Throw in software worth about a £1000 and sell the whole lot for £2100. NOW forgive me for being cynical on the way we have been treated and are being goat herded into our pens again. I would think different if the new cams just simply had 4.2.2 10 bit out and decent sensors NOT crippled with bad processing. Come on this has gone on long enough and beyond a joke.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]I am annoyed with camera manufacturers and the way they have done business I applaud Black Magic and want to support their ethos I dont want to see certain maunfacturers herd us all back into our compounds with glossy sales campaigns and guru speel in order to do it.[/font][/color][/i][/b] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][b][i]There is no reason why camera manufacturers cant output 10 bit in fact they have to take steps to prevent it from doing so. [/i][/b]"[/font][/color] Though I think, the hacks were nice, they weren't anywhere 'extraordinary'. The codec was still 4-2-0. The only, possible effect, of the code, was in grading, where the much higher bit rate, helped the video (possibly), from falling apart. Also, the latest 4-4-4 Patch on the GH2 is exaggerated, again. It is Nowhere near 12 bit 4-4-4. As a matter of fact, the FlowMotion V2.02 Hack seemed better (IMO), that the Apocalypse 4-4-4. Also, the BMCC and the GH3 are 2 completely different cameras, meant, for 2 completely different users. Till the exact quality of the video, coming out of the GH3 is not tested, in actual tests (as opposed to videos put out by professional DoPs and guys like those who apparently made the Nikon D600 video), it would be pre-mature, to compare it, to anything else around. The only difference, I noticed, on the GH3, as compared to the GH2, is that, perhaps, those banding issues have been greatly improved (especially w.r.d. to the Sky).