4K for $899 - a look at the Panasonic FZ1000

[jurgen]

FWIW, the B&H spec listing on the LX100 lists it as both 30p and 24p for 4K.

[mickachiste]

But after all, the nd filter is only needed for the photography, not for video use ? Am I wrong ?

[Cinegain]

But after all, the nd filter is only needed for the photography, not for video use ? Am I wrong ?

 

Eh. Then how would you go about shooting in broad daylight, low ISO and wanting to have a shallow depth of field?

You're not gonna want to shoot at 1/1000th of a second or something. You can't change any more camerasettings. You're already shooting lowest ISO, you have set the aperture you want for depth of field, shutterspeed for motion blur, the only thing you can influence is stopping down the light by introducing ND filters.

 

I had gotten some CPL and ND filters for the GH2 kit with original 14-140mm back in the day, which as well has the 62mm threadsize (later version of the 14-140mm is 58mm), so I can just throw those on there. Works fine.

[leeys]

As Cinegain says, you actually need the ND filter even MORE for videography. You can use 1/4000 for stills, not so for videos unless you want some radical new look.

[mickachiste]

Ok thanks for your help. But first of all  I need a polarized filter (for surfing movies...). So is there any way to add a polarized filter to an ND filter ?

[Cinegain]

Sure. You can stack filters all you want, they are double threaded. Just place the ND('s) first, then add the PL to the front.

[fuzzynormal]

Man, I'd love to shoot this for a particular client I have.  Thing is, they demand 60fps video.  Still waiting for it on 4K...otherwise, this would be the ideal product for their jobs.

[Nick Hughes]

Sure. You can stack filters all you want, they are double threaded. Just place the ND('s) first, then add the PL to the front.

 

Just note that stacking filters comes with a compromise in image quality, especially if using cheaper filters.

[andy lee]

you can stack Tiffen NDs with absolutely no issues - they do this on Hollywood films in industy practice .

its the only way if you want to shoot outside in daylight like I do at f2.8 wide open - sometimes I need ND 24  + to get the correct exposure , they only way to do it is with ND 16 +ND8 stacked ....it works

[bluefonia]

I know some people, - among them Andy :-), - don´t like vari ND´s.

If you are in a controlled and/or studio shooting environment  where matte boxes fits the workflow, I´m sure fixed/stacked filters might be the number one. In my workflow, - more run and gun, -  stackable ND´s are not convenient.

I have the latest edition of Genustech Eclipse vari ND and it gives me everything I want. There may be a little colorcast, but it is easily solved with a bit of CC in editing and I ´m pretty sure you have to deal with the same issues with most stacked ND¨s.

[Cinegain]

Just the other day Caleb talked about this ;) :

 

 

~ http://dslrvideoshooter.com/filters-video-part-filter-types-uses/

[andy lee]

nice video - he's repeating what I have been saying for years - use hard NDs as vari NDs suck in my opinion!!

they mess with your image too much for my liking so I never use them

Tiffen hard NDs are the best in my opinion worth the money for sure .

 

with ND 2, 4, 8 and 16 you have it all covered

[JohnVid]

Dont forget if you use 2 polarizerz you can cut your light down to nothing.

[andy lee]

2 polarizers = a vari ND

its the same thing thats what a vari ND is , it's just 2 polarizers rotating against each other.

[leeys]

I believe you need to use a linear and a circular together for that to work.

[JohnVid]

Yup and it's a great pity I didn't start making & selling them years ago, how much could I have made in the last 30yrs?

2 linears will do it me thinks

[andy lee]

yes and they screw with your image as you rotate them , yes it knocks off light but it also alters the way light falls on the objects, particularly shiny objects in your image as you rotate it , so there is no uniformity to shots at one setting and shots at a different setting , plus it induces lots of nasty atrifacts and fringing so I never use vari Nds !!!

[Jacek]

yes and they screw with your image as you rotate them , yes it knocks off light but it also alters the way light falls on the objects, particularly shiny objects in your image as you rotate it , so there is no uniformity to shots at one setting and shots at a different setting , plus it induces lots of nasty atrifacts and fringing so I never use vari Nds !!!

 

But using one fixed, non-rotating polarizer is ok i think?

[andy lee]

I use a Tiffen 4x4 non rotating polarizer in my arri matte box for shots that have glass in them, like filming through a window to remove the glare

 

http://www.tiffen.com/displayproduct.html?tablename=filters&itemnum=44POL