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#1 EOSHD

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 02:08 PM

Olympus OM D E M1

Olympus have announced a new flagship Micro Four Thirds camera, the OM-D E-M1 which goes head to head with the GH3 but without any of Panasonic's focus on video. The camera offers only one frame rate at all resolutions - 30p.

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 02:57 PM

HDMI live view clean and uncompressed is a no-no on the M1?

Great photo camera by the way, i own the M5 and this is a great evolution of a great camera, is sad the video specs.


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Posted 10 September 2013 - 03:11 PM

So there is no 25p for PAL versions of the camera? That's just aggravating.. And It would have to be on purpose though right? Surely they're not that moronic over at Olympus.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 03:14 PM

Andrew, check the studio comparison at DPreview again. I think they made a mistake somewhere, as ISO 6400 is not selectable anymore. The E-M1 doesn't look better than the GX7 at 3200 or 12800. Maybe they put a wrong value for 6400 and removed it...



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 03:15 PM

So so sad, looked so promising.

And focus peaking only seems to work with lenses that have electrical connection.

 

Is there anything we can do? 



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 03:32 PM

A few lines of code... a hell of a lot fewer sales...

 

That bloody stabilisation... it's like sticking a Ferrari engine in a box. All that potential wasted on a poor codec and too high a frame rate! ARG!


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Posted 10 September 2013 - 03:34 PM

Full official specs: http://www.olympus-e...ifications.html

 

At first I thought, fine, they just don't wanna add more programming cost to creating menu options with e.g a high bit rate mode.

But looking at video specs it seems to already be two modes for 1080p, one "high" bitrate  24 Mbps and one lower 16Mbps..

So it's just tweaking of numbers, this was a deliberate choice, what is going on here?!



#8 mike_tee_vee

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 05:32 PM

Any chance a firmware (either official or "hack") could bring out 24p video?

 

Otherwise, I'll save my $1,399.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 06:12 PM

I'd love it if someone could foucs on a hack for the EM5, personalviews had a thread on that, but sadly has somewhat stalled.

 

I'm hoping that in the near future a firmware update is issued for the EM1 and could be engineered for the EM5, at least we could up the bitrate and codec on video.

 

As to why Oly are so stumborn on the issue of video, this from someone on the inside of the company "we left the video side to pana'.

 

For over a year I've emailed filmakers and bloggers who wrote about this cam and are of the opinion, it is what it is and Oly knows what the filmaking community out there wants, but they simply don't care of that side of the cam.

 



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 07:09 PM

The high ISO is definitely an improvement over E-M5 and GX7

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 08:11 PM

Full official specs: http://www.olympus-e...ifications.html

 

At first I thought, fine, they just don't wanna add more programming cost to creating menu options with e.g a high bit rate mode.

But looking at video specs it seems to already be two modes for 1080p, one "high" bitrate  24 Mbps and one lower 16Mbps..

So it's just tweaking of numbers, this was a deliberate choice, what is going on here?!

 

 

I love that Olympus's "high bitrate" is the same bitrate an iPhone from several generations ago does.



#12 Xavier Plágaro Mussard

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 10:55 PM

Probably this video specs castration is consequence of the deal with Sony.



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Posted 11 September 2013 - 11:16 AM

So there is no 25p for PAL versions of the camera? That's just aggravating.. And It would have to be on purpose though right? Surely they're not that moronic over at Olympus.

The only conclusion is that they have agreed with Panasonic or more likely Sony that they will only provide basic video functions so as not to compete with these other manufacturers.



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Posted 11 September 2013 - 12:42 PM

The only conclusion is that they have agreed with Panasonic or more likely Sony that they will only provide basic video functions so as not to compete with these other manufacturers.

Any non-compete would be more moronic than Olympus not leveraging their 5-axis stabilizer in the growing video market.

 

Olympus has moved forward with the E-M1, but they fell sadly short of the mark.

 

As Andrew has said, maybe Sony will leverage the 5-axis.



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Posted 11 September 2013 - 01:59 PM

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 04:01 PM

Any non-compete would be more moronic than Olympus not leveraging their 5-axis stabilizer in the growing video market.

 

Olympus has moved forward with the E-M1, but they fell sadly short of the mark.

 

As Andrew has said, maybe Sony will leverage the 5-axis.

 

Presumably Olympus are getting something out of not competing. After the scandal their financial status must be pretty poor otherwise why would they license their fabulous stabilisation technology to Sony instead of keeping it as a USP?



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Posted 11 September 2013 - 05:51 PM

The whole Sony <3 Olympus thing is pretty new though. Olympus always only had 30p, while Panasonic went full out with video functions (GH1, GH2)...

 

The deal between Sony and Olympus is mostly about the medical branch of Olympus. Sony invested heavily because they don't just want to rely on the consumer market. Camera wise technology is going in both directions, the sensor in the OM-D is from Sony for example.



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 09:38 PM

 

Pretty interesting about the new colour creator feature, it can be applied to video too! Does that mean goodbye to 4X4 coloured filters? :P   Its like colour grading in camera.



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 10:05 PM

Video quality looks good.

 

Very detailed.



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Posted 13 September 2013 - 02:28 AM

Here's a video sample (at botton of the page), very good indeed.

http://www.photograp..._d_e_m1_photos/


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