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t3i vs t4i vs NEX 5r vs NEX 7

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Hi there good people of this forum...

 

I fullishly sold my beloved GH2 in hopes of buying the BMC camera. I got a work in the mean time to shoot webisodes and I need camera quickly, but don't want to spend too much money as I have very limited funds for that damn BMC whenever it comes.

 

I know that t3i and t4i are not amazing cameras any more, but they are dirt cheap at the moment and are good enough for the kind of work I m doing at the moment, and from the research I have done I believe that t3i is better only because MAgic Lantern is fully working on it. Am I right here?

 

I have been looking into Sony NEX 5r and NEX 7, but I have absolute no experience with these cameras, which one of the two is better and how do they compare with EOS t3i/t4i in image quality?

 

Please let me know your thoughts.

 

Thanks!

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I'm fairly sure the GH2 is currently cheaper than either of those canon cameras, so if you like the GH2 you may as well just pick one of those up again.

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I can't find any 2nd hand one in a good condition and priced normaly. I would still like opinion on those 4 cameras from the title. Especialy the NEX ones in comparison to t3i and GH2.

 

Thanks for your thoughts though.

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GH2 is $700.00+. The T3i is cheaper.

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Canon are really unpopular now and particularly here, but I love the T2i/T3i. The T4i touch-screen and lack of Magic Lantern I'm not into. Firmware is amazing due to Magic Lantern, it gives the NEX a sound kicking on bit-rate too. I bought a Mosaic engineering filter to go in it too, and coupled with high bitrates from Magic Lantern it looks great.

 

NEX lets you use more lenses though, and that speed booster will work with it, when it comes out, and if you want to buy it etc etc.

 

If standard AVCHD will be enough, the NEX cameras look like a good option to me. As far as I know they're pretty similar to EOS in terms of moire and resolution, but I stand to be corrected by someone with more experience.

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I owned a t4i for all of 3 days before sending it back. major let down.  better off getting a t2 or t3i

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GH2 is $700.00+. The T3i is cheaper.

GH2 = $680

http://www.samys.com/p/Panasonic/DMCGH2K/DMC-GH2-Digital-SLR-Camera-Body-Black/37768.html?origin=product-search&gclid=CKzuh5vd9bQCFcsWMgodmAQAnA

 

t3i = $600

http://www.samys.com/p/Digital-SLRS/5169B001/EOS-Rebel-T3i-Digital-SLR-Camera-Body/47757.html

 

The extra $80 is well worth it IMO

This pricing is based on the cheapest I could find from (TRUSTED) sites.

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Is it me or is the GH2 out of stock all over the place?

There's some on eBay though: http://bit.ly/T2AHx8

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what exactly are these webisodes you have to do?  I'm assuming these "webisodes" aren't related to the stuff you had planned for your BMCC.  seeing the popularity of youtube content, even a "high end point and shoot" camera would do fine.  or even the best camcorders under $300

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New GH2 are out of stock. I considered getting GH3, but need money for BMC and voigtlander lenses.

 

The webisodes and shorts that I have to do are not part of what I planned for BMC shooting. They have dramatic structure, so I need big sensor camera. I was thinking of what cheap cam I could get that would not hurt my budget for the BMC, new lenses for it and hopefully metabones adapter if it is ever made for MFT mount.

 

Two cheapest cameras are t3i, which is not that bad considering it has magic lantern, and NEX 5r, and I have no experience with NEX cameras.

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@milandirector

 

I have a voightlander 17.5 for sale and MIGHT consider selling my gh2.

But I would almost rather sell my gh3 than gh2 until the 3 is hacked lol 

 

and as far as the t3i goes, I may be spoiled by the look of the my 6d and the 10000 5D mk2 & mk3 videos online.

but the t3i/t4i just comes off as a "generic" version of canon that is sold by some shady dude in a dark ally.

it doesn't have that same warm and loving look as some of the others.  look into a mkII 

I've seen a few places selling them for around $1500 to hold you over till the BMCC is released.

and magic lantern is good to go with it.  

 

I'm waiting patiently for a GH3 hack (which is a long time away) and ML for the 6d (which is hopefully done in a week or two)

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@ gravitatemediagroup

 

How much are you selling the Voigtlander for? I have been looking for some time to buy it.

 

BTW how does unhacked GH3 footage looks like in comparison to hacked GH2?

 

I m more and more considering t3i as I can get a new one for $450. That is definitely not a big dent in my budget, and hopefully that damn BMC MFT mount will come out soon.. :)

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You want a t3i, what canon lenses do you have?

1000 for the voightlander

MFT BMCC will not be out anytime soon

And according to John brawley, MFT lenses don't mount properly on MFT BMCC

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Hm.. Pretty discouraging.. It's a good price for Voight. but I guess I'll wait a little to see what's happening with that MFT BMC.

I have no Canon lenses. Was thinking to hit 2nd hand lens shops... Could I fit APS-C and FF canon lenses on t3i?

 

Now that I hear that BMC MFT is not coming any time soon, I m tempted to look more seriously into GH3. That Chinese mini KINO cam looks interesting, but God knows when will that be on sale too....

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@gravitatemediagroup: where have you read that mft lenses dont mount properly on the mft-mount of the bmcc? I have been keeping an eye on that version aswell, hoping i can put my old primes on it. Cheers!

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It came directly from John Brawley himself in a post on the P-V forums

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. Could I fit APS-C and FF canon lenses on t3i?

 

are you asking this about the voightlander? 

if no...no way

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are you asking this about the voightlander? 

if no...no way

Oh no, I know that voightlander is MFT, just in general as I have Nikon FD (FF) glass and a beautiful 85mm Carl Zeis which is a FF too, and I m getting Samyaong 35 EOS, again a FF. I m wondering if I could feet those on t3i (first two with some kind of adapter)?

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Oh no, I know that voightlander is MFT, just in general as I have Nikon FD (FF) glass and a beautiful 85mm Carl Zeis which is a FF too, and I m getting Samyaong 35 EOS, again a FF. I m wondering if I could feet those on t3i (first two with some kind of adapter)?

 

Yes you can use Nikon F and Contax Zeiss C/Y glass on T3i. If it's only a temporary camera, you could get a T2i for even less money!

 

I have the 85mm f1.4, one of my favorites. In fact, all my lenses for the T2i are Carl Zeiss C/Y mount, apart from one Olympus OM.

 

So you can put M43, Nikon F, Pentax K, C/Y, Olympus... plenty of excellent glass on them. Not as exotic or street cred as old Moscow Leica copies, but they look great! Olympus OM is particularly cheap and cheerful.

 

I use ebay adaptors, they all focus fine to infinity. I get AF Confirm chips cos I shoot stills too sometimes, and the chip flashes the confirm dot throught the viewfinder when in focus, but peaking with Magic Lantern is better to be honest, so you could probably get away with the adaptors without the chip.

 

Hope some of this helps you get though the BMD drought ;)

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Very true. T3i would be just a temporary cam. BMC is nowhere in sight, KineRaw looks very interesting, but again God knows when will that cam be available too, and RED is still very expensive for me.

 

Sometimes I m thinking about investing in FS100 or even FS700, but than I would have to forget about RAW filming that I hoped to get from BMC.

 

Thanks for the suggestions..

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It's a dumb question, but I don't suppose that you could fit Voight. lens on EOS camera?

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