DBounce Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Recently I acquired an Samsung NX1 and have been testing it to see how it compares to the Sony A7R that I have. The A7R is clearly the superior stills camera. The full frame sensor makes creating beautifully blurred background a breeze. The NX1 seems to even things up in the video department. To that end I am looking for a transcoder, so that I can edit some of the footage in Adobe Premiere. I will be doing the editing on a Window machine. I downloaded a few of the popular transcoders (Rocky Mountain and FFmpeg, but the former was in Chinese, and the later did not run. Does anyone have a link to something that actually works? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Kotlos Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I used the RockyMountain (in english) to convert the xavcs to prores HQ but I was not happy with the result. Too much banding. See here:I am not sure if it has the same problem with h265 footage. Pretty soon adobe will release an update with support for that codec so you can use media encoder to transcode to cineform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted November 28, 2015 Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 I used the RockyMountain (in english) to convert the xavcs to prores HQ but I was not happy with the result. Too much banding. See here:I am not sure if it has the same problem with h265 footage. Pretty soon adobe will release an update with support for that codec so you can use media encoder to transcode to cineform. Do you have a link to the English version. All I could find was Chinese? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Marco Tecno Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Dbounce: if you use a7R with the 55/1.8 and the nx1 with 16-50S lens, then yes, there is of course quite a difference in bokeh. But if you use the 24-70 f4 on A7R and the 85/1.4 on NX1 the situation is exactly inverted. Of course FF will have always 1 stop advantage for bokeh in equivalent FL, but the lens will also be quite a bit bigger and heavier. As to transcoding options, there is new Rocky Mountain 2 out. But I'm looking fwd to h.265 support from Adobe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted November 28, 2015 Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 Dbounce: if you use a7R with the 55/1.8 and the nx1 with 16-50S lens, then yes, there is of course quite a difference in bokeh. But if you use the 24-70 f4 on A7R and the 85/1.4 on NX1 the situation is exactly inverted. Of course FF will have always 1 stop advantage for bokeh in equivalent FL, but the lens will also be quite a bit bigger and heavier. As to transcoding options, there is new Rocky Mountain 2 out. But I'm looking fwd to h.265 support from Adobe.You are of course correct. So to that point what fast lenses would you recommend? PS: I also am looking forward to native h.265 support from Adobe. http://***URL removed***/forums/post/56776776Thanks, got it churring away as I type this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Tecno Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Unfortunately NX system is lacking fast lenses in the fl of 35mm and 50mm equivalents. I've been desiring a 24/1.4 and a 35/1.4 since the beginning of NX. But...nothing. So my advice, for a shallow dof and AF, are the 45/1.8 and the 85/1.4. The former is just...magic. Small, very fast AF, ultra cheap, 9 blades and gorgeous bokeh. The latter is, IMO, the best lens for NX along with the 50-150S. Speaking of which, is also a great lens for portraits at 150/2.8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tugela Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Not a problem for me, since I usually want more dof, not less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted November 29, 2015 Author Share Posted November 29, 2015 Unfortunately NX system is lacking fast lenses in the fl of 35mm and 50mm equivalents. I've been desiring a 24/1.4 and a 35/1.4 since the beginning of NX. But...nothing. So my advice, for a shallow dof and AF, are the 45/1.8 and the 85/1.4. The former is just...magic. Small, very fast AF, ultra cheap, 9 blades and gorgeous bokeh. The latter is, IMO, the best lens for NX along with the 50-150S. Speaking of which, is also a great lens for portraits at 150/2.8.Think I'll try the 24mm Bower lens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX1user Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Rocky Mountain (Korean) is just a front-end for FFmpeg.I use Wondershare Video Converter on a Mac (they make a windows version too) and it's way better than Samsung's converter or Rocky Mountain. It has much better color, detail, way more options, and an efficient workflow. It's $50, but what is the quality of your files and your time worth?I'll be curious to see if there is any difference in final output quality between Wondershare and Premiere once it supports H.265. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff CB Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I'm dying for the H265 Premiere update, it was supposed to be the Fall update and we are almost in December already! kidzrevil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majoraxis Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I'm using Pro DAD Mercalli V4 to convert (and stabilize) 0-256 color space NX1 H265 footage . Currently $99 with this coupon code MV4-99 for Cyber Monday ends to day (the 30 of Nov at www.prodrenalin.com) it's normally $299. (I have no affiliation with Pro DAD...)I am waiting for Adobe to come out with native support as well. If edit H265 in Premier how do I color correct in Resolve 12? Normally convert to ProRes and then edit and CC in Resolve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Kotlos Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I'm dying for the H265 Premiere update, it was supposed to be the Fall update and we are almost in December already!Its called CC 2015.1 so it should be any day now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Adobe JUST dropped support for h.265 and I'm loving it. Look for the update right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 I'm dying for the H265 Premiere update, it was supposed to be the Fall update and we are almost in December already!its out now bro ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff CB Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 *SCREAMS IN JOY* Downloading now, hope playback speed is okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 *SCREAMS IN JOY* Downloading now, hope playback speed is okay.ehhhh...h.265 will make your new computer seem like it runs windows 95...I can't do anything other than 1080 work with these files...thank god 1080 is suffice for now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff CB Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Actually playback is better for me than ProRes. It may be because my card (GTX960) has a H265 decoder in it. Marco Tecno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Actually playback is better for me than ProRes. It may be because my card (GTX960) has a H265 decoder in it.yup thats definitely it ! For now im ok with settling for h.265 at 1080. Missing that h.264 performance tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Kotlos Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Have you guys tried the Adobe's media encoder to transcode the H265 to cineform? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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